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Aquaman has control over all creatures of the ocean. Cthulhu is a creature of the sea (arguably). Can aquaman control Cthulhu? If not is it because Aquaman is not powerful enough or because Cthulhu does not count?

From Comic-Vine

Although this power is most often and most easily used on marine life, Aquaman has demonstrated the capacity to affect any being that lives upon the sea or even any being evolved from marine life.

Emphasis mine

Cthulhu! I command you to do my bidding!

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He does not "live" in the sea and he comes from the stars. Iä! Iä! Cthulhu Fhtagn! –  Origami Robot Jan 31 '12 at 20:18
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But he does sleep there. In other news: Why the downvote? –  Pureferret Jan 31 '12 at 20:25
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I do not question the motives of Great Cthulhu. Also, I did not downvote. –  Origami Robot Jan 31 '12 at 20:28
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@Pureferret - The Holy Jihad Against Any Crossover Questions! Muad'Dib! –  DVK Jan 31 '12 at 20:30
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I think the real answer is how would Cthulhu control Aquaman -- before eating him. –  Tango Jan 31 '12 at 21:08
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Isn't Cthulhu a god/alien? He may currently in the sea, but he's not a "creature of the sea" - and will not always be that way.

Cthulhu is a Great Old One and is by far the most prominent member of the group. He currently lies in death-like sleep in the sunken city of R'lyeh somewhere in the Southeast Pacific Ocean. "When the stars are right", R'lyeh will rise from the sea, never to sink again, and Cthulhu will awaken and revel across the world, "ravening for delight" (src).

He's also not necessarily fully "aquatic" biologically: "simultaneous pictures of an octopus, a dragon, and a human caricature". And I'm not sure that Octopoid physiology fully implies aquatic evolution.

So the answer is "NO".

Please note that "Great Cthulhu is one of the Water Beings" is from Derleth's scheme, NOT from Lovecraft himself.

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Is this the case for the DC version of Cthulhu (if such a version exists)? He is 'part' octopus. –  Pureferret Jan 31 '12 at 19:57
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@Pureferret - part "Earth aquatic" octopus, or part "Alien of absolutely unknown evolutionary origin" octopus? I'm not familiar with DC one –  DVK Jan 31 '12 at 19:59
    
I've updated the question. Is it possible that Aquaman would be able to control Cthulhu whilst he is a 'creature...that lives upon the sea'? –  Pureferret Jan 31 '12 at 20:18
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That which may eternal lie, perhaps even death may die? –  Pureferret Jan 31 '12 at 21:07
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Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah-nagl ftaghn –  Sardathrion May 18 '12 at 10:01
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Cthulhu is definitely not an aquatic creature, despite the octopoid head. (Lovecraft sketched the monster once, and drew it with 6 eyes like a spider's.) It came from the stars and was not made of terrene matter. In its first appearance, "The Call of Cthulhu", it is stated that when its city R'lyeh sank beneath the ocean, it could no longer influence men with telepathic communication, because something about the ocean cut off all such broadcasts. Surely if it was aquatic, its powers would not be adversely affected by seawater.

After Lovecraft's death, August Derleth made Cthulhu a "water elemental", despite all the evidence to the contrary. So if Aquaman is in a Derleth story, yeah, he can control Cthulhu. If by some accident he blunders into Lovecraft's original, he's one more sardine for the Old One to gobble.

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Do you have a link to the image that Lovecraft drew? –  Sardathrion May 18 '12 at 10:00
    
@Sardathrion, here is a link to the sketch HPL made of the Cthulhu idol. Assuming Cthulhu is symmetrical, he has 6 eyes like a spider, rather than 2 like an octopus. cynical-c.com/2010/05/19/cthulhu-as-drawn-by-hp-lovecraft –  user6540 May 26 '12 at 15:18
    
@GomroMorskopp: Many thanks indeed. –  Sardathrion May 28 '12 at 6:31
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Cthulhu has octopoid features and is trapped underwater, but he is not a sea creature. In fact, in "The Call of Cthulhu," it's mentioned that the water is actually a bad thing from his point of view, because it blocks his telepathic communications with the cult and keeps him and the rest of the Great Old Ones imprisoned. August Derleth tried to make him into a water elemental, but August Derleth can go jump in a lake.

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+1 for August Derleth jumping into a lake... –  Sardathrion May 18 '12 at 9:59
    
rather, he can go jump in the cthulhu-filled ocean. –  Michael Edenfield May 28 '12 at 2:29
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I would say it largely is based on the point in the Cthulu mythos evolution your talking about.

Early mythos: yes he was a great sea creature and a priest.

Late mythos: no, he was a god that was under the sphere of water.

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Cthulhu is not of the sea. He is not of this world at all. He is simply sleeping there for some time.

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Aqua man doesn't use "mind control" for fish, he talks to and persuade them, he can bend them, but not force them to do his own bidding. Secondly, it also matters not because he can communicate telepathically with humans to, in one comic he caused one guy to have convulsions just by concentrating and caused the evil Kordax to kill himself by unleashing an intense mental attack.He can swim up to about 1000 knots (about 1,150 MPH) and has the body strength to throw a car like a football, so he could penetrate the skin of Cuthulhu with his trident while using his mental powers to annoy him. I think that they both would see no reason to kill each other unless they were hindering the other's progress and frankly think that they would make a good team. Besides, once a year Aquaman fights a cthulhu-like alien form another dimension, in which he has never lost. Aquaman can travel to different dimensions as well as time travel, perhaps where he lives, and maybe make allies with him.

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