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Thaddeus's comment got me wondering about what exactly is the difference between Marvel's Ultimate universe (Earth-1610) and the Cinematic universe (Earth-199999)? After all from what I've seen of the Marvel movies (admittedly not all of them) they seem to largely draw from the Ultimate universe anyway.

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The most obvious differences would be that 199999 lacks all of the characters whose movie rights are owned by other studios instead of Marvel, and thus will never show up in the 199999 universe despite existing in 1610 so long as other studios hold the rights. While the exact details of the movie right deals have never been revealed, a number of people supposedly "in the know" have said that the rights are renewed so long as the studios continue to actively develop movies for each character. So, so long as Fox continues to work on X-Men or Spider-Man movies, Fox will continue to own the rights - blocking Marvel from using their own characters in the 199999 universe.

Of course with the lack of these characters existing, their back-stories and interactions also never existed.

Screenrant lists the movie rights as the following (Note that not all of the characters listed below exist in the Ultimate/1610 universe - I'm just copy/pasting to be complete):

20th Century Fox

  • Daredevil: Daredevil/Matt Murdock, Elektra (Natchios), The Kingpin/Wilson Fisk, Bullseye, Jack Murdock, Karen Page, Ben Urich [UPDATE: As of April 2013, the Daredevil/Elektra rights have reverted to Marvel]
  • Elektra: Christine Cord/Tatoo, Typhoid Mary/Marry Alice Walker, Kirigi, Stick, Stone [UPDATE: As of April 2013, the Daredevil/Elektra rights have reverted to Marvel]
  • Fantastic Four: Doctor Doom/Victor von Doom, Human Torch/Johnny Storm, Invisible Woman/Susan Storm, Mr. Fantastic/Dr. Reed Richards, The Thing/Ben Grimm, Nova/Frankie Raye, Alicia Masters, Willie Lumpkin
  • X-Men (Mutants): [Agent Zero/Maverick/David North], Angel/Warren Worthington III, Arclight/Phillippa Sontag, Beast/Dr. Henry Phillip “Hank” McCoy, [Blob/Frederick J. Dukes], [Bolt/Christopher Bradley], Callisto, Colossus/Piotr Nikolaievitch Rasputin, Cyclops/Scott Summers, [Deadpool/Wade Wilson], Emma (Grace) Frost, Jean Grey/Phoenix, Juggernaut/Cain Marko, Gambit/Remy LeBeau, Glob Herman/Herman Gardner, Iceman/Bobby Drake, Jubilee/Jubilation Lee, Katherine “Kitty” Anne Pryde, [Kestrel/John Wraith], Lady Deathstrike/Yuriko Oyama, Leech, Magneto/Erik Magnus Lehnsherr, Mastermind/Jason (Wyngarde), Multiple Man/James Arthur Madrox, Mystique/Raven Darkholme, Nightcrawler/Kurt Wagner, Phat/William Robert “Billy-Bob” Reilly, Professor Charles Xavier, Psylocke/Elizabeth “Betsy” Braddock, Pyro/St. John Allerdyce, Quill/Max Jordan, Rogue/(Anna) Marie, Sabretooth/Victor Creed, Sebastian Hiram Shaw, [Silver Fox], Siryn/Theresa Rourke Cassidy, (The) Spike, Storm/Ororo Munroe, Wolverine/Logan
  • X-Men (Non-Mutants): Non-Mutants: Drake Family (Steven, Madeline, Ronny), Grey Family (Dr. John, Elaine), Henry Peter Gyrich, Robert Edward Kelly, Dr. Moira Kinross MacTaggert, Dr. Kavita Rao, William Stryker, Bolivar Trask, Warren Worthington II

The mutants Quicksilver (Pietro Maximoff) and Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff) are being specially allowed to appear in The Avengers: Age of Ultron so long as no mention is made of their traditional mutant background.

New Line Cinema

  • Vampires: Blade, Deacon Frost, Dracula/Vlad Tepes
  • Non-Vampires: Hannibal King, Abraham Whistler [UPDATE: Since the time of writing this, The Blade rights have been transferred back into Marvel's hands.]

Sony Pictures

  • Ghost Rider: Ghost Rider/Johnny Blaze, Blackheart/Legion, Phantom Rider/Carter Slade, Abigor, Gressil, Mephistopheles, Wallow, Barton Blaze, Roxanne Simpson [UPDATE: As of May 2013, the Ghost Rider rights have reverted to Marvel.]
  • Spider-Man: Spider-Man/Peter Parker, Doctor Octopus/Otto Octavius, Green Goblin/Norman Osborn, (New) Green Goblin/Harry Osborn, [The Lizard]/Dr. Curt Connors, Sandman/Flint Marko, Venom/Eddie Brock Jr., Betty Brant, Dennis Carradine (Buglar), J. Jonah Jameson, Ben Parker, May Parker, John Jameson, Joseph “Robbie” Robertson, Gwen Stacy, Mendel Stromm, Flash Thompson

Lionsgate Entertainment

  • Punisher: The Punisher/Frank Castle, Jigsaw/Billy Russoti, Microchip/Linus Liberman, Joan the Mouse, Maginty, Mr. Bumpo, Spacker Dave, The Russian, Maria Elizabeth Castle, Detective Martin Soap [UPDATE: Since the time of writing this, The Punisher rights have been transferred back into Marvel's hands.]
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why earth 19999 can use hulk?, there was a movie from fox –  osdamv May 23 '12 at 22:33
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Yes, Fox made a movie that did fairly poorly at the box office. The mixed reception was enough for Fox to not actively work on a new movie, allowing Marvel to reacquire the rights. –  phantom42 May 24 '12 at 0:03
    
I hope pass the same thing with dragon ball, the movie suck, thanks fox for destroy part of my childhood –  osdamv May 24 '12 at 0:26
    
Really a shame. One would hope that with the Disney acquisition of Marvel that they would be able to use those Disney mega-bucks and endlessly powerful lawyers to buy back at least partial rights to start putting together more "team up" movies like Avengers, make more accurate movies of the comic books, etc. Keeping my fingers crossed - not a massive Disney fan, but you gotta admit they nailed it with The Avengers. –  AJotr May 25 '12 at 22:58
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@phantom42 - I edited in an update; in 2013, Sony gave up the Ghost Rider rights and Fox failed to make a Daredevil sequel, so those rights also reverted to Marvel. –  Michael Edenfield Dec 28 '13 at 15:36
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