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I just recently realized that "Dr. Noonian Soong" and "Khan Noonien Singh" sound familiar. Is there documented confirmation that the TNG writers were inspired by Star Trek II? Or is this purely a coincidence?

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Or, indeed, inspired by Space Seed. –  Paul D. Waite Dec 15 '13 at 12:07

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Directly - no.

They were both named after Kim Noonien Singh, who Gene Roddenberry knew during World War II.

Additional trivia from IMDB:

During World War II, he had a friend named Kim Noonien Singh; after the war Kim disappeared, and Gene used his name for some characters in the Star Trek series (Khan Noonien Singh from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) and Noonien Soong from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" (1987)) in hopes that Kim might recognize his name and contact him.

Roddenberry also had a tendency to reuse names - for example, Dylan Hunt was used several times.

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Sorry to be tardy to the party,

But Dr. Noonian Soong is in fact linked to Kahn. Dr. Soong's great grandfather Arik Soong created the Augments (the super beings led by Kahn) and played a vital role in the Eugenics Wars. Khan's name is a bastardisation of Soong's name, but Kahn is (in a weird kind of way) Noonian Soong's great great uncle.

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Out of interest - but what episodes provide this information? –  HorusKol Jan 7 '14 at 22:59
Arik Soong lived during the time of the ENT series, over a century after the Eugenics Wars. He had nothing to do with the creation of the Augments. –  Izkata Jan 7 '14 at 23:34
Source for this information? –  Wayne In Yak Jan 8 '14 at 0:41

I just finished watching Star Trek Enterprise S04E04-06 and it's about Dr. Noonian Soong. He was in prison for crossing the line when he was on the project creating the genetic supermen, the same as Kahn. The episodes also have Dr. Noonian Soong's children, not his literal children but a group of kids he raised that were genetic supermen. He stole the embryos when he was working on the project.

At the very end of ep6 Dr. Noonian Soong expresses his interest in making an android....... Inception of Data ;-)

Interestingly, one of the supermen children made mention of rumors of the ship "Botany Bay" (the ship that carried Khan and his crew) and Khan but Dr. Noonian Soong dismissed it as not being true.

So they are not directly linked but thought it would be interesting to mention this.

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How is this an answer to the question? –  Keith Thompson Dec 15 '13 at 7:04
Agreed. While relevent in a trivia way, this is not an answer and something better off in a forum and not on a Q&A site. –  Meat Trademark Dec 15 '13 at 8:09
It does point out that the writers of Enterprise later added an in-universe link between the two names, which is interesting. –  Paul D. Waite Dec 15 '13 at 11:57

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