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Did Obi-Wan ever identify who erased the Kamino system from the Jedi Archives? Was is Palpatine? Was it Count Dooku? We know that Sifo-Dyas was the Jedi who supposedly ordered the Clone Army and that he is dead but did he also erase the Kamino system from the Archives?

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On a side note, do we know that Sifo-Dyas actually ordered the clones? Perhaps that was also done by either Palpatine or Dooku. –  Michael Todd Apr 25 '11 at 20:40
@Michael Todd Very good point especially since no one from Kamino ever met Sifo-Dyas in person. –  Chris_O Apr 25 '11 at 20:46
Wouldn't it be more convenient to pretend that this was an insignificant event that doesn't really require an explanation? Certainly it doesn't merit the 45 minutes of pod racing time. Sorry. Color me bitter. Edit: fantastic question though. Thanks for asking and thanks for all the good, if conflicting answers. –  user20179 Feb 20 '13 at 4:40

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Sifo-Dyas wasn't behind creation of Clone Army because he never even mentioned it in front of Jedi council. Obi-wan got misleading information about it.
According to Star Wars: The Clone Wars (Season 2) TV show, Jedi archives can only be manipulated using force: There wasn't any bad Jedi to erase Kamino from Jedi Archives without permission of Jedi Council. There was only one sith, Palpatine, who had access to Jedi Temple. So, clearly, Palpatine was behind all these things.

Palpatine needed the Clone Army to beat Jedi order. So, he ordered it & erased Kamino system from the Jedi Archives.

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Except that Dooku was a Jedi at one point and would have had access to the library to change the records. –  Xantec Apr 25 '11 at 21:33
According to LucasFilm Timeline, Count Dooku became sith few years prior to 22 BBY (Before Battle of Yavin) & Clone Army was ordered in 32 BBY. In 32 BBY, Count Dooku wasn't motivated by Palpatine. So, - like Anakin - Count Dooku was good at that time. –  SS-3.1415926535897932384626433 Apr 25 '11 at 22:15
That assumes that Kamino was removed from the library at the same time (relatively) that the clones were ordered. –  Xantec Apr 25 '11 at 22:34
In the movie, Obi-wan says that he believed Sifo-dyas to already be dead at the time the army would have been requested. –  Sydenam Oct 9 '11 at 13:50

According to wookieepedia It was Dooku :

After the death of Sifo-Dyas, Dooku successfully erased Kamino, Dromund, Dagobah, and thirty-five other star systems from the Jedi Archives, despite no longer being a Jedi himself.

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The article seem to cite Labyrinth of Evil as the source, if anybody could confirm that, it would be welcome. –  DavRob60 Sep 22 '11 at 16:52

Now that Darth Plaguies book has been written, this is even less clear. Dooku appears to leave the Jedi order, prior to becoming a sith apprentice. And he did not have any knowledge of the clone army or anything, so he had no reason to erase anything. And I doubt he had access to the jedi temple after he left the order. So I don't think it could have been him. Little is known about Sifo Dyas' activities. But he told Dooku in Darth Plaguies book that he was one step ahead.... What he meant by that, not sure, but I surmise it is related to the clone army. My best guess is it was Sifo Dyas he erased Kamino. He had access, and was aware of the reasoning to erase it. Dooku simply did know until he was already gone from the order.

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Actually, I think Dooku did it before completely turning the dark side. Only a Jedi could alter the archive.

EDIT: I found a reference to this in "Labyrinth of Evil" from James Luceno. It is from a conversation between Yoda and Obi-Wan about the murder of Sifo-Dyas(page 98/532 in my ebook)

A theory I have--nothing more. Murder, Dooku committed. Then, from the Jedi archives erased Kamino, he did. Of that tampering, proof Master Jocasta Nu found--proof of Dooku's action, though well concealed it was.

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Another article in the Wookiepedia says that Dooku did this in spite of not being a Jedi. (Powerful is the dark side!) –  Tango Jan 7 '12 at 5:09
This has a canon reference, unlike the previously approved answer. I think this one should be put as the correct one. –  jacen.garriss Nov 17 '13 at 13:51
@jacen.garriss: at the time I answered the question, I could not remember which book it was. 2 years later, at last, I found it :) –  Johann Blais Nov 18 '13 at 17:42

I dont think it was Dooku. He was very surprised when the clone army appeared the first time on Geonosis.

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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sifo-Dyas It was Dooku under the command of Sidious.

Sifo-Dyas approached the Kaminoans and requested a clone army for the Republic. With the funds provided by Damask Holdings despite the fact that Hego Damask recently died, Sifo-Dyas paid the Kaminoans. But little did he know that Sidious and Dooku had learned of this and ensured the steps to his demise. Erasing all records of Kamino from the Jedi Archives, the final test provided to Dooku was to murder his old friend. Executing the man, Dooku gained full control of the project for the Sith, using Sifo-Dyas as a cover.

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Whomever directly did it aside, we know Sidious was behind it in some way. The clones were programmed with Order 66, and he needed to have that happen for his plan to work. Now, that being said, Jango said he was hired to be the template by Tyrannus, aka Dooku, so we know Dooku was part of it. However, Dooku was surprised by the army, but I think his surprise is how quickly they arrived at Geonosis, not the army's creation.

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Basically, I think Dooku went to Kamino posing as Sifo-dyas and ordered a clone army, but Sidious and Dooku knew that that clones would be under their control because they were being cloned from Jango Fett. Jango was the bounty hunter who was being employed by Dooku and so when Dooku acted surprised in front of everyone else about the clone army he was simply covering up the truth just in case Viceroy Gunray or anyone else told the Jedi, thus foiling their plans. I think this because in Revenge of the Sith, Order 66 was sent out and the Clones then turned because they were working for Dooku and therefore Sidious.

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Order 66 wasn't because they were working for Dooku. It was because they had a number of contingency plans in place for any problem, and were simply following orders. –  SSumner Aug 14 '13 at 13:38
The clones weren't working "for" Dooku or Sidious. They were soldiers bred for loyalty to the Republic. As Papaltine/Sidious was the leader of the Republic-turned-Empire, they follow the orders issued. –  phantom42 Aug 14 '13 at 14:00

It was Dooku, everything adds up to him. He had to erase Kamino from the archives and kill Sifo-Dyas as his pledge to Palpatine.

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Dooku having reason to erase Kamino from the archives is not the same as proving he did it. –  phantom42 Feb 19 '13 at 19:30

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