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In Thor: The Dark World, the Asgardians clearly have advanced technology, as they are using anti-aircraft missiles against the dark elves' ships in the city. But when the dark elves get inside the main Asgardian building, the Asgardians are just standing around with their swords up, and are easily killed by the dark elves who are using gun-like weapons.

Why don't they have more realistic weapons to defend their king?

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Are they actually swords? Maybe the weapons are so advanced we can only perceive them as swords. –  Xantec Mar 24 at 16:48
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Well, regardless of whether they are actually swords, they just stood there and died while the dark elves shot at them. –  Zoe Mar 24 at 16:50
    
This might be opion based actually... –  DoctorWho22 Mar 24 at 16:50
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You watch a movie about English-speaking superhumans from another planet that play god on Earth and you ask for "realistic" weaponry? Oh, I hope that was just a bad choice of words. :D –  Raphael Mar 24 at 21:23
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@Raphael Would practical have been a better word? –  Zoe Mar 25 at 17:09
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Asgardians do have and use energy weapons. But keep in mind that Asgardians are usually rather strong and would most likely benefit more from using high tech melee weapons..

Asgardian racial information from the wiki..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asgardians_(comics)

Although they look human, all Asgardians possess certain superhuman physical attributes. They are extremely long-lived (though not purely immortal like their Olympian counterparts), aging at an extremely slow rate upon reaching adulthood (through the periodic consumption of the golden apples of Idunn). Asgardian flesh and bone is three times denser than similar human tissue, contributing to their superhuman strength and weight. An average Asgardian male can lift 30 tons (27.2 metric tons); an average Asgardian female can lift about 25 tons (22.7 metric tons). Asgardians are immune to all terrestrial diseases and resistant to conventional injury. The metabolism of the Asgardians gives them superhuman stamina in all physical activities.

Remember the Asgard is one of the most powerful races in the movie universe as far as this point, and the dark elves no longer existed according to Asgardian lore. So most likely they thought that the intruders wouldn't not have the sufficient technology or strength to defeat them.

Essentially Asgardians use their technology to enhance their armor and melee weapons so that they can take advantage of their superhuman abilities.

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For someone sufficiently strong and with sufficiently tough skin (such as the Asgardians, who could shrug off regular bullets, especially if armored) melee weapons are a superior choice: a fine edge will part skin/armor which would stop a larger impact site (like knives cut Kevlar) and could be driven by their increased strength. I think it's likely that a sword swing by someone who can deadlift 25 tons will pack more energy than a bullet. –  Jeff Mar 24 at 17:45
    
Unless you are a heavily trained person with firearms, in which you can shoot a person in the head with dead aim accuracy and know that the blast will go through their head / skin. –  DoctorWho22 Mar 24 at 20:47
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Hard to pull off a head-shot in combat, when everyone is moving. There's also no reason to expect a head-shot to penetrate if an arm-shot or a leg-shot won't - the skull is a thick piece of bone, and the skin isn't notably thinner there than anywhere else. By the way, most gun training trains a person to aim for the center of mass (torso) - it's the largest, stablest target and a hit there will almost certainly be incapacitating. Head shots are best left to snipers, video games, and zombie apocalypses. –  Jeff Mar 24 at 21:09
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What about the Chitauri? They had firearms. And even if the Asgardians didn't think they were going to be fighting opponents with firearms, that doesn't preclude them from bringing a gun to proverbial knife fight. –  Paul Draper Mar 24 at 23:59
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Side comment: @DoctorWho22's answer sounds an awful lot like "Your superior intellect is no match for our puny weapons." :) –  Codes with Hammer Mar 25 at 13:31
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Don't forget what happened when Odin walked in on the Dark Elves... He leveled a small party of them with a half-second of a ray from his staff. (This is a long-distance, "gun-like" weapon.)

They also had heavy artillery mounted for shooting down aerial attacks, and they had gun-like devices mounted on their own aircraft.

This leads me to think that they simply carry melee weapons because they find them easier to fight with for the small types of attacks they are likely to see in everyday action. They probably have long-range weapons, but they aren't used for handling small uprisings (as Asgardians are pretty strong, and can deal with a lot anyway.)

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Long range weapons like the Bifröst? True, somewhat: why move troops with guns into a battle if you can drop a nuke? –  Raphael Mar 25 at 16:53
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Clearly, the Asgardians had the technology for projectile weapons, and reasons to have them (Dark Elves, Chitauri, etc.). It must then be the case then that they did not want to use such weapons, at least for personal combat.

Asgardians live and die by honor. To Asgardians, swords are more honorable (ethical) than guns.

A human analogy might be hollow-point bullets, which have been prohibited for use in war as far back as the Hague Convention of 1899. Hollow-points are very effective at causing pain and death, and they would make war far more painful for your opponent. They are in the technical sense better, yet most nations adhere to this ban, and many (most?) people agree they are "more unethical" to use in war.

The Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty is another human example of intentionally limiting weapons, even though it may give a surprise advantage to your less scrupulous enemy.

Asgardians, like humans, deliberately chose to not use technically superior weapons.

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The last two paragraphs are pretty irrelevant. There's certainly no canon reason to assume that guns are banned in Asgardian society simply because they choose not to use them. –  Richard Mar 25 at 0:38
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@Richard, no one said Asgardian weapons are banned by law. But certainly they choose not to us them. The last two paragraphs give examples of humans choosing not to use better weapons. (True, both examples are official legal agreements, but that's not what is significant...it's choosing to use inferior weapons.) –  Paul Draper Mar 25 at 0:55
    
Per Monty's comment above, I don't think we can assume that their weapons are inferior simply because they have a different style of fighting. youtube.com/watch?v=cx1XhlPIeEM –  Richard Mar 25 at 1:40
    
@Richard, no one thinks a weapon is inferior "because they have a different style of fighting". They think a weapon is inferior if the highly skilled, highly trained demigods using them get their a**** handed to them. –  Paul Draper Mar 25 at 1:43
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It's simple: the movie doesn't follow comics facts.

In the comics, the Dark elves don't use any laser guns, they use swords and magic just like the Asgardians. The easiest way to kill an Asgardian, definitely isn't by laser guns, since they are highly durable against any energy projection. So, the best way would be by piercing objects such as spears... The Asgardians use swords because it is the best way of killing other high alien beings.

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Can you cite some references for this? Why would swords hurt them if lasers and other items can't? And if the answer is "magic" swords, can't they have "magic" bullets or lasers? Or "magic" chain-mail to stop the swords? –  Meat Trademark Apr 7 at 3:18
    
Only some dark elves use magic... Some quick research shows that their powers show this. Dark elves possess gifted intellects, as well as superhuman strength, speed, stamina, durability, agility, and reflexes. Some Dark Elves, like Malekith, can use faire magic do shapeshift, teleport, project energy blasts, and so on. Which is similar actually to the movie considering Malekith is the only one shown using magic. marvel.wikia.com/Dark_Elves –  DoctorWho22 Apr 10 at 13:08
    
Many writers Think that the Asgardians, Dark elves, the freaking frost giants are magical beings so the laws of physic don't apply to them that's why they can almost survive any kind of alien laser guns but be pierced by regular bullets and swords if driven with some superhuman strength. –  kaue Apr 16 at 22:23
    
Thor being many, many, many, many.... times stronger and more durable than any Asgardian can take any bullet quite easily although some dumb writers made him have some problems with bullets. –  kaue Apr 16 at 22:25
    
Not all Asgardians can practice magic just as not all dark elves can although they are all considered magical beings by nature. –  kaue Apr 16 at 22:26
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