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It has been a while since I saw it so please forgive me for asking.

In Star Trek 2009 Kirk is thrown off the Enterprise, his escape capsule crashes on a Moon.

Is it coincidence that his crash-location is within walking distance to 'Spocks cave' (and that he walked in the direction of the cave)?

A time-traveling Spock could know where Kirk was crashing&running so he could have waited at that cave. But aside from Spock's time-travel being accidental (and thus probably not having the location-info) he is very suprised to see Kirk run into his cave. So is it just coincidence?

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The answer is "plot hole". –  Richard May 15 at 21:06
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That film is more hole than plot! –  James Sheridan May 16 at 1:15
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That's no moon; it's a plot hole. –  Ben Miller May 16 at 14:23
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@BenMiller - That's too big to be a plot hole. –  Darth Satan May 17 at 12:10

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Yup!

Old Spock was on Delta Vega because he'd been essentially exiled (or, more appropriately, cast aside) by Nero on that planet1, specifically because (miraculously) it was close enough to Vulcan to see it being destroyed, but not close enough for it to be pulled in or otherwise affected by the black hole Nero created to destroy it.

It was certainly not deliberate: Old Spock had no say in the matter, and it's extraordinarily doubtful that Nero would have put him where Kirk would find him (to say nothing of the fact that, given how drastically they've already altered the timeline, neither of them could have had any relevant prescient knowledge of these events anyway).

Kirk arrived there by sheer accident, it simply being the most convenient place for Young Spock to drop him off when he exiled him.

So, yes, Young Spock just happened to drop Kirk off on the same planet Old Spock was on, and Kirk just happened to land close enough, and just happened to walk in the right direction, for the two to meet. So, yes, one big cosmic coincidence.


1 Not a moon! Vulcan has (had) no moon. Well, I guess it could have been a moon around a neighboring planet in the system, but could just as easily (and arguably more likely) have been said planet.

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For a related question and details about Delta Vega: scifi.stackexchange.com/q/11758/1973 –  Plutor May 15 at 21:24
    
@Plutor Thanks, I'd forgotten the name of the planet! –  Kromey May 15 at 21:40
    
Given that 40 Eridani is about 0.46 Sols luminousity, yeah, it could very well be a planet of it's own. –  aramis May 18 at 4:43

Its a bit of a coincidence but not as big as it seems. Spock was there because his captors were attacking Vulcan and that moon was a good place to leave him to watch. Kirk was there because his ship had been deployed to stop that same attack, Kirk's rebellion occurred while in orbit and again it was a convenient place to drop him that wasn't Vulcan itself. Since Kirk would also be dropped onto the side of the moon facing Vulcan given the circumstances, that puts Kirk and Spock on the same side of the same moon.

From there, they were both headed to the same base. The chances of their paths eventually converging are a bit small but not infinitesimal. Especially if beasts and elements were forcing them both to seek shelter along the way. But given that all the original Star Trek crew managed to end up on the same ship regardless of differences in the timeline, it could be one of those "timeline trying to fix itself" things.

Basically, coincidence yes, cosmic coincidence, no.

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The same side of the moon? Yes, because moons are usually tiny –  Richard May 15 at 21:06
    
@Richard Yes, but Delta Vega wasn't a moon. en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Delta_Vega_(Vulcan_system) –  Kromey May 15 at 21:37
    
Planet, moon, retcon, whatever. .. –  Richard May 15 at 21:39
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...cosmically (comically?) insanely implausible coincidence... –  Kromey May 15 at 21:43
    
It doesn't fall within the realm of strict logic I agree but it does work well enough for purposes of narrative convenience and narrative causality. In particular, they keep the plot going fast enough to keep it from being a problem during viewing. Does it make sense? Not really but OMG its young Kirk and Old Spock. –  methodOverload May 16 at 17:46

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