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In the Fellowship of the Ring, after Arwen outruns the Nazguls, she notices that Frodo is in a very bad state and seems to be very near death.

At this point she says;


"What Grace has given me, let it pass to him"

Which was followed by trippy-smithy and I usually didn't pay attention to it.


What did she mean by that?

Was it just a prayer? Or was she giving him some of her own life force to save him?


@John_Rennie pointed out that this scene is not there in the books. Considering this, the answer doesn't have to be perfect. It can be taken from examples of other such events from the Tolkien-verse or something from the real-world, where this scene was given an explanation.

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The scene isn't in the book, so I don't think there is an reliable answer. –  John Rennie Aug 13 '14 at 8:17
Well, her grace is being Elrond's daughter, which makes it her choice which kind she wants to be, which makes no sense whatsoever here, since she does not decide until later. Even in the book though, she grants a gift that is given to her to Frodo (after all is done): her place on the ship to the Undying Lands. Since she is still supposed to actually take that place in the second movie, not really an answer either. Like @JohnRennie said, reliable answers will be hard to come by. –  BMWurm Aug 13 '14 at 8:49
Yes PJ wanted Arwen more involved, because he wanted to build the love story, which in a visual medium you cannot really do if the lovers barely meet. Sadly, the entire scene makes no logical sense anymore, since upon her arrival, Frodo sees her surrounded by white light, being halfway in the spirit world because of the Morgul blade. Yet she never was in Valinor - unlike Glorfindel, who SHOULD have been the one to find them. They followed the description in the book - probably because it IS a great visual - but changed the character, which kills the logic. "Artistic Licence" as the answer? –  BMWurm Aug 13 '14 at 8:59
The words take on an entirely different meaning when you realize she's pressing him up against her chest... –  Omegacron Aug 13 '14 at 17:12
Gandalf and Frodo have this exchange in Rivendell, which at least very, very strongly implies Glorfindel was in Valinor: G: "those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power." F: "I thought that I saw a white figure that shone and did not grow dim like the others. Was that Glorfindel then?" G: "Yes, you saw him for a moment as he is upon the other side". –  Paul Griffiths Aug 14 '14 at 2:38

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As commenters have noted, Arwen was not originally intended to encounter Frodo in this scene. Peter Jackson substituted her for Glorfindel, probably for a few reasons (the romantic subplot makes sense, as does removing an appearance of an otherwise redundant character1).

One possibility is that Arwen is using an elvish spell, like the one she used to rouse the river and foil the Black Riders. Considering that magic in Lord of the Rings is a very specialized thing, I find this unlikely, but it's most consistent with the dialogue. The "grace" she refers to may be this magical gift, or it may refer to her elven immortality, which she may have shared with Frodo to help him survive long enough for Elrond to heal him fully.

The more logical explanation is that Arwen, as Elrond's daughter, was simply a better healer than Aragorn and not as good as her father. The "grace" would then be her healing skill, which she used to stabilize Frodo long enough to get him to Elrond, and the white light we see is a visual representation of Frodo going into a coma as a result of his poisoning2. This makes more sense in the context of the world, but is inconsistent with the dialogue and actions of Arwen.

1 As an amusing addendum, I want to include an often-repeated story from the early days of the LotR series, for anyone who may not have heard it. While he was writing the book, Tolkein was part of a writer's club called The Inklings, which included C.S. Lewis (Of The Chronicles of Narnia fame). All members of the group were writers, and they would often read their unfinished drafts to one another for critique. During one such reading of an early draft of one of the books, Inkling Hugo Dyson (A vocal critic of Tolkein's story) loudly exclaimed "Oh no, not another fucking elf." The exact quote is disputed, but the sentiment remains: too many friggin elves.

2 Desolation of Smaug confirms this part of the theory. When Kíli is suffering from the Morgul poison, he briefly sees Tauriel standing with a bright white light behind her. Since Tauriel is earlier confirmed to be a Silvan elf, and therefore had no ancestors in Valinor, there's no other explanation for this shared phenomena (unless you assume that Frodo was in love with Arwen which, outside of fanfiction, isn't going to hold water)

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This scene isn't in the books but it's an obvious reference to (or at least inspired by) a different scene that does exist in the books, at the beginning of the Return of the King chapter, Many Partings:

A gift I will give you. For I am the daughter of Elrond. I shall not go with him now when he departs to the Havens; for mine is the choice of Lúthien, and as she so have I chosen, both the sweet and the bitter. But in my stead you shall go, Ring-bearer, when the time comes, and if you then desire it. If your hurts grieve you still and the memory of your burden is heavy, then you may pass into the West, until all your wounds and weariness are healed.

This is during a conversation between Frodo and Aragorn and Arwen, after Aragorn's coronation and wedding, and Arwen is granting Frodo the gift of sailing West for healing: "what grace is given me"...

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And this connects well with OceanMachine's answer. –  trlkly Aug 14 '14 at 5:53
Yet, as Matthew Graybosch points out in his answer: Bilbo was allowed to go too, and did NOT recieve that gift from Arwen - in fact they never meet again. Or do 2 Halflings add up to one She-Elf?? And what about Sam later on?? EDIT: Asked and answered: scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/48375/… –  BMWurm Aug 15 '14 at 14:54

It has been some time since I saw the films or read the books, but I always thought she was giving up her elvish immortality to save him. Later on in the films, she says things like "I choose a mortal life" and to Aragorn "I would rather live one lifetime with you, than spend a thousand alone" (I know I probably butchered that, sorry).

The passage in Darth Satan's answer seems to convey this also.

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Do you have anything more concrete (evidence or proof-wise) to back up this answer beyond "I always thought?" I suggest checking out the Tour to get a better idea of how to ask and answer questions here. –  Meat Trademark Aug 13 '14 at 17:32
@MeatTrademark OceanMachine did cite a later point where Arwen states that she "chooses a mortal life". If you lay out her dialog end-to-end... –  Yakk Aug 14 '14 at 1:17

As others have pointed out, Jackson and his writing team took liberties with Tolkien's source material. However, it may help to dig into the Silmarillion. Here are a few salient points to keep in mind:

  • Elves are not monolithic. Some tribes left Middle-Earth early in the First Age to dwell with the Valar in Valinor.
  • One of these tribes, the Noldor, returned to Middle-Earth after declaring war on Morgoth, the first Dark Lord and Sauron's boss.
  • After Morgoth's final destruction, the Noldor were permitted to return to Valinor.
  • Arwen, being of Noldor ancestry through her half-Elven father Elrond, is also permitted to sail from the Grey Havens to Valinor.

This ability to sail to Valinor is probably the "grace" Arwen has asked to be passed to Frodo, but this doesn't make any sense in the wider story. Bilbo and Frodo are both allowed to sail with Gandalf, Celeborn, Galadriel, and the others who departed Middle-Earth at the end of The Lord of the Rings not because of Arwen's sacrifice, but because of the suffering they faced as Ringbearers.

My opinion was that the entire scene was a mistake caused by Jackson replacing Glorfindel with Arwen so that she wasn't just a trophy bride for Aragorn. In the book, Arwen chose to live as a human and not an elf, renouncing her immortality.

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