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In Immortals, the Titans battle the gods (i.e. Zeus and buddies). In the film it's shown that the gods have extreme physical capabilities: mainly speed and strength. When they battle the Titans though, it seems like the Titans are faster than humans, but nowhere near as fast as the gods. As a result, the battle between them is practically a slaughter. It seems to me that the Titans should have been at least equal to the gods, if not stronger. Why were they so weak?

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It's because humans pray gods, not titans. This makes gods more powerful. –  Sachin Shekhar Jun 3 '12 at 9:43
    
That exactly stands the fact why they are called Gods. –  Ebenezar Nov 12 '13 at 6:44
    
You try standing in a cage with a bit in your mouth, unable to move, for a couple of thousand years and then we'll see how handy you are in a fight... –  evilsoup Nov 12 '13 at 10:51
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It boils down to poetic license (why don't they adhere to Grecian battle tactics and ancient Greek architecture?), but I am not sure I agree with your analysis. The way it looks, at least to me, is that the difference between the two sides is that the gods seem to be better warriors. In comparing them, I am reminded of Bruce Lee vs. your ordinary warrior (I once saw a film of Bruce Lee knocking a man halfway across the room without moving more than half a foot...). Imagine what a battalion of Bruce Lee's might do to a legion of regular warriors, even if the warriors were more well-trained than most.


As a side note, there are a number of different stories of the overthrow of an older generation of gods by a a younger, and in the case of the Greeks, that tale is largely lost.

My general experience with Grecian myth, however, is that the younger generation is considered less barbaric and more civilized (Titans largely being portrayed as cruel simpletons), which may be one of those cross-cultural undertones of generation warfare combined with the "natural man vs. civilized man" (cf. Epic of Gilgamesh). This would be similar to the Norse pantheon and their war with the giants. We, as a culture, have a tendency to have the view of "smarter = stronger = better" and give all of the good attributes to the heroes. This is a bi-product of our Greco-Roman heritage.


As another side note: Bruce Lee is the only one to ever beat Chuck Norris.

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+1 just for the Bruce Lee/Chuck Norris link. :) –  John C Dec 15 '11 at 12:56
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Deities and Worship

The simplest answer is though the Titans, who were descended from the primordial beings of Uranus and Gaia may have given birth to the later generation of gods, the ascendancy of Zeus and his brothers/court, as well as their offspring directed the energy of worship from the earlier Titans toward themselves. During a great war between the Titans and the Olympian deities called the Titanomachy Zeus imprisons the Titans in Tartarus after the battle. This battle may have reduced the efficiency of some of the Titans since after their loss and replacement, they would no longer be gaining fresh spiritual energy in the form of worship from humanity.

There was a common theme of father against son among the Greek deities where Chronos rebelled against Uranus, and later Zeus against Chronos. Zeus would later fear the same from his own offspring, so he first imprisoned the Titans so they would no longer be a threat. Then for a time, he would even attempt to prevent a later generation of Gods from usurping his power by consuming any potential offspring. This did not stop Athena from eventually bursting free from his head, fully dressed for War. However, his libidinous nature ensured there were plenty of demigods out there, performing heroic deeds on a regular basis.

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This answer presumes tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodsNeedPrayerBadly , which I'm not sure is true of Greek deities. –  Sean McMillan Nov 14 '11 at 16:36
    
Nice reference from TVtropes. So you make a statement refuting the concept but don't explain why you think that the Greek deities would be exempt from the idea of needing worship. I don't see why they would not. The basic premise of all deities is that they need worship otherwise they would not exist. If we presume the existence of anthropomorphized deities, the extension would be they would benefit from being recognized and worshiped. I am hard pressed to think of a deity that has ever been listed as NOT desiring worship except for the Cthulu Mythos deities. –  Thaddeus Nov 14 '11 at 17:12
    
@ThaddeusHowze this is a view which is in complete contradiction with some very widely held beliefs on the nature of deity - in particular the Christian Trinity. –  UnbanRonMaimon Nov 15 '11 at 3:20
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@Thaddeus There is nothing in the source material to suggest that the Greek deities gain power from worship. The wars between different generations of gods happened when no humans existed, so even if your premise was true, they could have had no effect. The most important factors were all political - the victor in each generation won by gaining the help of older deities or the losers of the previous battle. –  UnbanRonMaimon Nov 16 '11 at 6:12
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@Thaddeus Howze you also have not defended this statement: "The basic premise of all deities is that they need worship otherwise they would not exist". Nearly every belief system contains deities that existed prior to humanity - clearly they did not need belief to exist. –  UnbanRonMaimon Nov 16 '11 at 6:15
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The reason they lost in the movie is because Immortals is based upon the Greek myths. In the Greek myths, the Gods beat the Titans.

Now why did the Gods beat the Titans in Greek mythology? The most straight forward is that the Titans were never worshiped. When man invented the myths, they would want their Gods to be the winners. It makes no sense to worship the losers of a great battle.

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First of all I watched the movie the Immortals and failed to live up to the mythology. The truth is that the Titans are more powerful then the gods. The only reason the Titans lost to the gods was because Zeus promised many of the exiled and imprisoned giants freedom if they would fight on the side of the gods. You see Krunos the Titan would exile many of there offspring because they were born ugly or dis-formed. Before the battle of the Titans began the offspring of the Titan were promised freedom by Zeus if they would fight for him. There were the One hundred handers, the cyclopes and, other giants. So when the battle began between the Titans and the gods, the Titans found themselves out numbered. Plus there were Titans who switched alliance and fought on the side of the gods. The gods with all this extra help eventually triumphed over the Titans (the old gods) .

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