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I remember reading somewhere a theory that V'ger (the being that the Voyager probe had become in Star Trek: The Motion Picture) was somehow responsible for the creation of the Borg. Is this canonical? Where does the theory come from? And how exactly did it go down?

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I've never heard this, and AFAIK it couldn't possibly be true, since the Borg are older than the Voyager probe. (Plus, how could V'ger get to the Delta quadrant and back?) –  JSBձոգչ Jan 18 '11 at 23:47
V'ger machine culture aliens vastly more powerful than the Borg. Why? Well they built a machine around voyager, that took 30 minutes for Enterprise to fly on impulse engines. And that was build around an old rocket with primitive solars cells, valves as a computer. I suspect they threw their own tat out onto Voyager, since they never needed it, but it was still vastly, many orders of magnitude more powerful than enterprise. –  scope_creep Jan 19 '11 at 1:23
Isn't this a duplicate? scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/426/… –  Wikis Mar 15 '11 at 21:07
@wikis I would argue that it is a more specific question as to whether or not a certain borg creation story is canonical and where that particular creation story originates. As opposed to the one you link which asks just for the canon creation story. –  Daniel Bingham Mar 17 '11 at 16:50
It's more like, V'ger and the Borg share a common ancestor. V'ger eventually became a creature of pure energy. Q, anyone? –  user8357 Aug 17 '12 at 15:20

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It looks like this explanation for the origin of the Borg is not canon.

The Star Trek Encyclopedia speculates that there could be a connection between the Borg and V'ger, the vessel encountered in Star Trek: The Motion Picture; this is advanced in William Shatner's novel The Return. The connection was also suggested in a letter in Starlog #160 (November 1990). The letter writer, Christopher Haviland, also speculated that the original Borg drones were members of a race called "The Preservers", which Spock had suggested in the original series episode The Paradise Syndrome might be responsible for why so many humanoids populate the galaxy. Coincidentally, in the novelization of Star Trek: The Motion Picture (written by Gene Roddenberry), the V'ger entity notes that the Ilia probe is resisting the programming given to it because of residual memories and feelings for Decker, from its precise replication of the Deltan lieutenant. When V'ger becomes aware of this, it decides that "the resistance was futile, of course".

The extra section of the game Star Trek: Legacy contains the "Origin of the Borg", which tells the story of V'ger being sucked into a black hole. V'ger was found by a race of living machines which gave it a form suitable to fulfilling its simplistic programming. Unable to determine who its creator could be, the probe declared all carbon-based life an infestation of the creator's universe, leading to assimilation. From this, the Borg were created, as extensions of V'ger's purpose. Drones were made from those assimilated and merged into a collective consciousness. The Borg Queen was created out of the necessity for a single unifying voice. However, with thoughts and desires of her own, she was no longer bound to serve V'ger. This explanation, however, is not canon.

Unfortunate, because that would be kind of awesome.

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I would vote this up like a gazillion times if I could. I've been looking for this! Thanks @Bill –  morganpdx Jan 19 '11 at 0:21
@morganpdx: I would have to disagree. This is a clunky, ham-fisted, contrived reverse-deus-ex-machina. It is like a 15 year old wrote it. –  DampeS8N Jan 19 '11 at 1:21
@Damp I was referring to the locating of the answer, not the quality of the answer itself. –  morganpdx Jan 19 '11 at 18:47
@morganpdx: Ah, understood. :P –  DampeS8N Jan 19 '11 at 19:48
@DampeS8N: "...clunky, ham-fisted, contrived reverse-deus-ex-machina." Are you referring to Shatner's book or the Wikipedia article? Because one of those might have actually been written by a 15 year old. ;) –  Bill the Lizard Jan 19 '11 at 19:52

It landed on the central node and the Borg upgraded it and renamed it vger that's all the letters that were left on the probe on its hundreds of years journey back to earth it compiled so much data that it became self aware. there's a part in the movie where spock saw a machine planet and during his meld with vger said that resistance would be futile the upgraded tech and size came from the accumulation of thousands of races it encountered its main weapon was not a weapon it was a probe in a sense it remembered things to death.

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This answer doesn't provide anything that the already accepted answer has provided –  HorusKol Oct 12 '12 at 23:46

Vger in my opinion has nothing to do with the creation of the Borg... why... not everything has to draw back to the original series. Secondly the SPACE is vast and the Borg are not the only "living machines". Also ummmm remember that time traveling spaceship Captain Braxton was on it. Well if they knew this information wouldn't they just go back stop Voyager (aka Vger) from being launched sure it would cut the motion picture but that is an average movie anyway. In my opinion now you can take this or leave it but remember the Star Trek Voyager episode Unity where Chakotay helps this planet of ex drones where they force there will to unite everyone... that is probably a better explanation of the Borg that or a medical/ military experiment gone wrong.

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Do you have any evidence other than "well, it doesn't have to be" ? –  Izkata Dec 5 '13 at 0:01

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