Timeline for Is there a story behind the misquote, "Luke, I am your father"?
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| Jul 5, 2016 at 11:29 | comment | added | Fattie | Hey, whoever sent over the phat bounty - thanks! | |
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| Apr 27, 2016 at 20:07 | comment | added | reirab | @JoeBlow reference :) (j/k, of course.) | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 19:52 | comment | added | Fattie | brilliant find, @reirab ! following english.stackexchange.com standards, personal recollections mean nothing, only references mean anything. Note too that, indeed, everyone agrees that the misquote has "always been known". It's entirely possible that, just after the film was released, some "famous misquoting" happened (on a TV show - whatever) and that is why we all started misquoting it early. (I simply don't know if it's a case of "A" or "B", but as already repeated one can't dismiss either.) | |
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| Apr 27, 2016 at 19:41 | comment | added | reirab | @JoeBlow Apparently the line was even used in a radio dramatization as early as 1983. That said, others have already posted personal experience from the months following the movie, which is not particularly surprising. | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 18:02 | comment | added | Fattie | Hi @reirab ! if you say "this phrase was in common usage way before 1995" you should surely be able to find in print or video, some example of that. That would be great. It would support your case, too. | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 17:58 | comment | added | reirab | @JoeBlow Both are possible, but 'B' seems a lot more likely in this case. Certainly, as others have said, this phrase was in common usage way before 1995. | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 17:52 | comment | added | Fattie | @JesseSielaff : Brilliant | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 17:50 | history | edited | Fattie | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 27, 2016 at 17:40 | comment | added | user58651 | It appeared at least once earlier on film, in Tommy Boy (1995): youtube.com/watch?v=TsI3lFHkU_s | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 15:24 | comment | added | Fattie | However, note that with such misquotes, indeed "A" is often the case. There is a specific actual "first misquoter". Folks who here are suggesting "only B is possible" are wrong. (Conversely, if you think "A" must be the case - you are wrong.) I've given an actual decisive "A-like" example: if someone found other "A-like" examples (hopefully far earlier than mine), that would be a Good Thing. But again - by all means - both "A" and "B" could, certainly, be the explanation here. | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 15:21 | comment | added | Fattie | Sure: Situation "A". It was caused by one particular notable misquote. (So for example, we could actually discover that, literally, (for example) "Dan Rather on January 1982 misquoted, and it seems to have taken off from there." OK?) OR, situation "B". As many have argued, it is an "obvious" misquote so there is no particular source: folks just "started doing it", reinforcing each other and it would be incorrect to think of some "particular first famous happening". OK, so BOTH "A" and "B" are perfectly reasonable, and both are possible. Neither are "impossible". | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 15:05 | comment | added | Shokhet | @T.E.D. I dunno about that. Who's to say that is wasn't everyone making the same "mistake," all over at around the same time? It's not like this is such a huge departure in the meaning of the line, just one word (which adds a lot to contextualization) changed. | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 18:12 | comment | added | T.E.D. | @ToddWilcox is correct. However, I think JB is also correct that there has to be some kind of "misquoter zero" who first used this particular verbiage which everyone else picked up and ran with. It's unlikely to be in a clip available on youtube though. | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 15:12 | comment | added | Hagen von Eitzen | @JoeBlow If you remember what continent you lived on in the 70s, you were not in the 70s :) | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 14:52 | comment | added | corsiKa | @ToddWilcox You say "lived through" as if it was a war zone or something... | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 13:19 | comment | added | Todd Wilcox | Now that you mention it, I think my memory is just focused. For example, I just now remembered that there are actually like seven Star Wars movies now. | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 13:16 | comment | added | Fattie | "As someone who lived through the release of all three Star Wars movies, I assure you that ... in the months immediately..." it's incredible you have that good a memory for oldsters of our age, Todd! I can't remember what continent I was living on in the 70s. :) | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 13:13 | comment | added | Todd Wilcox | As someone who lived through the release of all three Star Wars movies, I assure you that people were saying, "Luke, I am your father" in the months immediately following the movie and not because of some misquoting in some other media source. This kind of quote "mutation" happens all the time with movies in a similar way. Our brains aren't so good at remembering things perfectly, but we remember how big a moment it was, so we fill in the cracks in our memory so we can try to bring that moment to other people. | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 12:38 | history | answered | Fattie | CC BY-SA 3.0 |