Timeline for Why did Dumbledore say that Harry escaped Voldemort four times?
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| Nov 18, 2021 at 14:39 | comment | added | user21820 | @Holger: I posted an answer that excludes (1) and (2) for the same reason as your comment. | |
| Nov 18, 2021 at 9:31 | comment | added | Holger | @Acccumulation the diary was already there and sending the Basilisk through Hogwarts. When Harry hadn’t the mark, the originator stayed untouchable. We don’t even know whether and when someone recognized the threat as a Basilisk if Harry didn’t speak Parsel. So it’s fair to say that it enabled him to succeed, while you’re still right, it also brought him into danger. But that applies to all confrontations, as they all are the result of the first one. But thinking about it, it’s definitely not correct to say that the mark saved him on the 2nd, it was again Lilly’s sacrifice which saved him. | |
| Nov 17, 2021 at 21:05 | comment | added | Acccumulation | @Holger Then Voldemort's marking him didn't save him, it's what put him in danger in the first place. | |
| Nov 17, 2021 at 19:23 | comment | added | Holger | @Acccumulation except that only someone speaking Parsel could ever reach that point. | |
| Jun 22, 2018 at 22:22 | comment | added | Acccumulation | Did Voldemort's "marking" him have any effect on his encounter with the diary, though? Anyone with a basilisk tooth could have stabbed it through the book. And Tom Riddle was too busy monologuing to try to kill him. | |
| Nov 28, 2016 at 12:03 | comment | added | Ghoti and Chips | @AntonyD'Andrea At first glance, it's a good argument, Antony. Dumbledore even tells Harry about the love magic right after the event you refer to. Will look into it, see what I find (my answer serves to logically discount the 1yo encounter as one of the four, since the encounter precedes the transferral of power, but your argument, thus far, still stands). | |
| Nov 28, 2016 at 11:57 | comment | added | Antony D'Andrea | I would argue that the encounter when they met in the first book was also due to love as it was that protection on Harry that was preventing Voldemort from touching him. | |
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| Nov 28, 2016 at 11:06 | comment | added | Ghoti and Chips | Having just read the relevant chapters, I have proof that your comment is completely correct, @DariM, and there is no confusion about it. He not only knew about Horcruxes, he suspected Tom Riddle's diary was one. Not only that, he inferred (by the way it flippantly put itself in danger) that there were more than one horcrux with Voldemort's split soul fragments. Here is a screenshot of the relevant part of the HBP book (Chapter 23, Horcruxes) | |
| Nov 28, 2016 at 3:04 | comment | added | DariM | Doesn't Dumbledore specifically say (in HBP) that it was the diary and the way the fragment of Riddle's Soul acted, not really being just a memory, that started him on the Horcrux train way back in Chamber of Secrets? He found the Horcrux (ring) after the end of OotP and destroyed it, so it's practically inconceivable that he didn't know Voldemort was involved with Horcruxes when he made this statement. What he didn't know until HBP was the scale (and he says as much) - Slughorn's memory fragment confirmed the important of Seven as a number. | |
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