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Oct 3, 2016 at 15:48 history edited Rand al'Thor
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Apr 16, 2012 at 15:26 vote accept nopcorn
Apr 16, 2012 at 14:56 comment added nopcorn @Beofett, I like it. Thanks for your help (both of you).
Apr 16, 2012 at 14:33 comment added Beofett After a discussion with Ian Pugsley, we've come up with a suggestion for a new title. Please let us know if you think it is suitable.
Apr 16, 2012 at 14:32 history edited Beofett CC BY-SA 3.0
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Apr 16, 2012 at 14:30 comment added Zelda Which Godzilla? The character and his apparent motivations are highly different in each series. Sometimes he's clearly a force for good, more often ambiguous, on rare occasions he's just a stupid monster crushing stuff. One time he just wanted to play Basketball...
Apr 16, 2012 at 14:11 comment added Ian Pugsley let us continue this discussion in chat
Apr 16, 2012 at 14:08 comment added Ian Pugsley @Beofett Correct, which is why "Why/when does Godzilla stop being the antagonist?" would be my preferred phrasing. I am anti-"bad", because of the clear ambiguity of the term and it's lack of applicability to Godzilla movies.
Apr 16, 2012 at 14:06 history tweeted twitter.com/#!/StackSciFi/status/191890414133968897
Apr 16, 2012 at 13:59 comment added Ian Pugsley @Beofett He was the sole antagonist of the original film, and routinely fought the humans (e.g. Mothra vs. Godzilla) - despite there being justification for it, I'd still say he was depicted as "bad." Either way, if everyone else is fine with this title, that's fine.
Apr 16, 2012 at 13:30 comment added Ian Pugsley @MaxMackie That's exactly why the current question title isn't appropriate. Perhaps "Why does Godzilla stop being the antagonist?" is more appropriate (though I'd still call him the protagonist, given that he is the titular character, you're rooting for him, he's defending the earth, etc. - that's regardless of his motivations, it's the structure of the story). Either way, a good phrasing to represent the shift is necessary.
Apr 16, 2012 at 13:25 comment added nopcorn @IanPugsley, IMO that title would be better, but I still don't see Godzilla as a "protagonist" in the usual sense of the term. Like Beofett said, he's more of an animal wanting to keep his territory. The fact that we perceive those acts as "good" doesn't make them inherently "good".
Apr 16, 2012 at 13:21 comment added Ian Pugsley "Alternate" may not have been the best word choice, but I feel like the original title isn't very clear. Perhaps "Why does Godzilla become a protagonist in later films?"
Apr 16, 2012 at 13:16 history edited nopcorn CC BY-SA 3.0
new title added not representative of godzilla's nature
Apr 16, 2012 at 13:11 answer added Beofett timeline score: 32
Apr 16, 2012 at 12:55 history edited Ian Pugsley CC BY-SA 3.0
Rephrased title for less subjectivity.
Apr 16, 2012 at 12:33 answer added phantom42 timeline score: 13
Apr 16, 2012 at 12:25 answer added BBlake timeline score: 3
Apr 16, 2012 at 12:21 comment added nopcorn @bitmask, true. I was seriously thinking he could just be fighting off other monsters because he wants to be the only monster to destroy the city. But I don't know at what level Godzilla is capable of cognitive thought :)
Apr 16, 2012 at 12:16 comment added bitmask Maybe Godzilla doesn't fit in your good/bad pigeon-holes? Maybe he's neither?
Apr 16, 2012 at 12:12 history asked nopcorn CC BY-SA 3.0