Timeline for Why did Denethor choose to burn himself to death?
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Jun 22, 2017 at 13:08 | comment | added | Voronwé | @Quasi_Stomach good point. A hat tip to you~ | |
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Jun 22, 2017 at 4:35 | comment | added | Jerry Coffin | Although military loss probably was inevitable, some of what he was shown (and particularly the part that probably finally broke him) was technically true, but quite deceitful. Sauron showed him the fleet of black ships, making him believe it was inevitable that he'd lose that day's battle. In fact, however, that black fleet had been taken over by Aragorn and his army of ghosts. Rather than driving the final nail in the coffin as Denethor thought, they actually saved the day. | |
Jun 21, 2017 at 23:29 | comment | added | suchiuomizu | @TheMathemagician Sauron deceived him on some of the details, but the idea that military victory over Sauron was impossible was a fact (speaking of the ultimate end of the war, not individual battles). The destruction of the Ring was the only hope of victory and one Denethor was not likely to have much faith in. | |
Jun 21, 2017 at 22:01 | comment | added | leftaroundabout | @oliver not quite... | |
Jun 21, 2017 at 19:25 | comment | added | Quasi_Stomach | I don't think "slow sleep of death" referred to a "slow death" but to the way that the bodies of their rulers were so well-preserved as to appear to only be sleeping. | |
Jun 21, 2017 at 15:21 | comment | added | Yorik | I forget: in the movie, does Denethor have a palantir? Do they reference this at all? | |
Jun 21, 2017 at 15:06 | comment | added | oliver | re "he looked in the Stone and was deceived": truly Sauron is also the Lord of Fake News. | |
Jun 21, 2017 at 14:50 | comment | added | zibadawa timmy | @TheMathemagician "Dotard chamberlain" refers to himself. "[A]n upstart" refers to Aragorn: the person to whom he would serve as a (dotard) chamberlain. | |
Jun 21, 2017 at 14:18 | comment | added | John Bode | +1 for finding a way to use "hella" and "daresay" in the same sentence. | |
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Jun 21, 2017 at 8:42 | comment | added | TheMathemagician | He believed Gondor was hopeless but that was due to Sauron's subtle manipulation via the palantir. And by "dotard chamberlain of an upstart" he is referring to himself, what he would become. | |
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Jun 21, 2017 at 6:29 | history | answered | Voronwé | CC BY-SA 3.0 |