Timeline for Is there direct evidence that the Riverfolk were actually Hobbits?
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| Nov 28, 2017 at 4:08 | comment | added | Spencer | The proof of the pudding would have been to know what Lotho Sackville-Baggins would have done with the ring. Although unanswerable really, I'd speculate it wouldn't have been pretty. | |
| Jul 23, 2017 at 18:03 | comment | added | Pryftan | I was just reminded of one of the Letters from the answer: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/35020/85680 (another question) where Tolkien describes them as a branch of Men. However he meant it at least in my scientifically inclined mind that is evolution. Whether you want to call them part human is another matter entirely; the prologue to The Lord of the Rings makes it clear they don't even know so I think the only correct answer is if they don't know we have to assume they aren't (burden of proof lies on those claiming something exists). With no complete proof it remains a debate, I guess. | |
| Jul 23, 2017 at 17:52 | comment | added | Pryftan | I would say that it did exist although I currently can't think of an example. What is certain is some hobbits took the idea of houses (from men? elves? both? I can't recall) and improved it (at least for their liking). That's kind of evolution though maybe evolution of doing something. Another example maybe? Glaurung was the father of dragons but he had no wings. I suppose it depends on how you interpret it. The only other thing I can think of is hobbits were rather shy of Big Folk so probably less likely. Either way I still don't believe Riverfolk had the blood of Men in them. | |
| Jul 23, 2017 at 7:23 | comment | added | user77299 | Right. There are 3 races of hobbit. Harfoots, Stoors and Fallohides. Riverfolk were stoor. They were the same but different. Each had their own characteristics. It's just a theory of mine that stoor were mixed with man. It wouldn't be the first time man mixed with another race. I wonder if evolution existed in this world. Since Creationism clearly played a role. | |
| Jul 22, 2017 at 23:21 | comment | added | Pryftan | More like Sméagol was taken in so quickly; poor Déagol didn't have a chance, really. But just like we as people in our world vary in all sorts of ways including strength and weakness (and so badly seeking power is a weakness and even more when you're willing to murder - and that's not even considering the power of the One Ring), so too do hobbits. Look at Sandyman, for example. Look at the other corrupted hobbits at the end. That is plenty of evidence by itself that some were more resilient than others to, let's say, 'life'. The fact of the matter is he was a Stoor. | |
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| Jul 22, 2017 at 21:56 | history | answered | user77299 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |