Timeline for Are there characters from Tolkien's Legendarium that came back from the dead?
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| Dec 15, 2017 at 13:06 | comment | added | Sekhemty | Wikis are used as a reference extensively on this site, I'm a bit surprised to find that they are frowned upon. If it is needed, when I gather the necessary time, I can improve the answer. | |
| Dec 14, 2017 at 13:53 | history | edited | Sekhemty | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Dec 14, 2017 at 7:27 | comment | added | ibid | What's with all the quotes from secondary sources? | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 21:05 | comment | added | Kyle Strand | @Edlothiad Okay, yes, your comment makes much more sense as a response to the answer rather than to vaxquis. | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 20:57 | comment | added | Edlothiad | @KyleStrand I was not replying to vaxquis and I'm fully aware of what is appropriate on an SE site. There is canon for tolkien's legendarium, and it's the published works as Tolkien last published them at the time of his death. On this stack we are slightly more lenient allowing Christopher's works in as well as long as it's Tolkien's notes being quoted and not Christopher's. How we will go on from now is anyone's guess, but that is what is considered canon on the site. TG while sourced provides a lot of speculation. | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 20:52 | comment | added | Kyle Strand | @Edlothiad Word of God is never "canon", given that, as vaxquis notes, Tolkien changed his mind on various things over time. That doesn't mean this isn't interesting and useful information. Similarly, linking to another SE answer is completely appropriate on an SE site. | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 20:24 | comment | added | Sekhemty | @KyleStrand Basically what Edlothiad said. He did not actively fought the evil with the same prominent role as Gandalf, thst's why he is considered to have been fully faithful to his duty. | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 20:23 | comment | added | Edlothiad | You've failed to use any form of canon sources. The sources TG gets their answers from are provided you should visit those sources. | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 19:56 | comment | added | user24069 | @KyleStrand good point. Tolkien himself discussed the matter further suggesting that both Blue Wizards and Radagast may have, in fact, did exactly what they were supposed to do, and his stance on this matter is somewhat self-contradictory; see e.g. scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/67711/… , (or just go through the Unfinished Tales, II. Istari.) also, tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Radagast/Fail | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 19:55 | comment | added | Edlothiad | @KyleStrand because he didn't help guide the people's of Middle-earth but became engrossed by the Fauna and Flora. | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 18:08 | comment | added | Kyle Strand | Sekhemty, do you know why Radagast is not considered to have "stay[ed] true to his errand"? | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 18:07 | comment | added | Kyle Strand | @Buzz The elves (and Tolkien) clearly consider the passing of their spirits to the Halls of Mandos to be "death", just as most religious humans do who believe in an afterlife and a subsequent reincarnation (which does not necessarily involve a "wholly new" body; for instance, some Catholics object to cremation on the grounds that the body will be re-used!). | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 15:05 | comment | added | Edlothiad | @Buzz Well I'm assuming incarnation is rebirth of the fea, which in the case of elves, doesn't occur | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 15:03 | comment | added | Buzz | @Edlothiad It depends on what you mean by "reincarnation," I suppose. In one of Tolkien's letters, he mentions that the new bodies of reincarnated elves were basically identical to the old ones (although without any injuries). To me, "reincarnation" implies a wholly new, individual body. However, I am coming at the word from the point of view of a Man, not an elf (for whom reembodiment is perfectly normal). | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 15:00 | comment | added | Edlothiad | @Buzz so no-one was reincarnated? Except maybe Beren. | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 14:56 | comment | added | Buzz | I don't think elves (such as Glorfindel) being re-embodied counts in any meaningful was; that was just part of their normal life cycle. | |
| Dec 13, 2017 at 14:49 | history | answered | Sekhemty | CC BY-SA 3.0 |