Timeline for Where do small folks' surnames come from?
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| Apr 10, 2018 at 12:27 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackSciFi/status/983682780709249024 | ||
| Apr 10, 2018 at 3:36 | vote | accept | Paul | ||
| Apr 10, 2018 at 1:14 | comment | added | Möoz | So you can't think of a person called Tanner? I suppose you haven't met my mate Tyrion Tanner then? | |
| Apr 10, 2018 at 1:10 | history | edited | Möoz | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 9, 2018 at 20:42 | comment | added | Martha | I detest GRRM's writing, so this is from real life, not his books: not all surnames are inherited, some are just descriptive. The vast majority of uninherited surnames, by a very wide margin, in pretty much all countries/languages, have been patronymics, either literal (Johnson), possessive (Johns), or unmarked (John). So if I had to guess, I'd say Slynt and Deem are/were the personal names of those characters' father or grandfather. (Or maybe one more generation back, if they already had pretensions of higher birth/enough money to make people willing to use their surnames as family names.) | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 17:53 | comment | added | Paul | Yeah, I was remembering some line where Sansa said Jeyne was “too low born” for something, and conflating that with not being noble. I saw after my comment that she was. | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 16:28 | answer | added | PlutoThePlanet | timeline score: 7 | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 14:48 | comment | added | TheLethalCarrot♦ | @atayenel He may not have existed, it's a name for the legend with no indication if the real person used it. It's also clearly a nickname rather than a potential surname. I don't think that matches the case in the question at all. | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 14:46 | comment | added | atakanyenel | Bran the Builder might count as a name that comes from a craft. But it is a nickname rather than a surname | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:46 | answer | added | TheLethalCarrot♦ | timeline score: 15 | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:38 | comment | added | TheLethalCarrot♦ | We're discussing this in The Quill and Tankard if you'd like to join us. Just making speculation at the moment though. | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:32 | comment | added | Paul | Tyrion even refers to Slynt as the up jumped son of a butcher. | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:23 | history | edited | TheLethalCarrot♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:23 | comment | added | Paul | @TheLethalCarrot as I said, he was Janos Slynt before he ever became a Lord and created House Slynt. There is no evidence that Deem was a noble, nor is he ever referred to as such. See also Poole, which Sansa explicitly refers to Jeyne as a commoner in aGoT. | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:22 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:21 | comment | added | JAD | Take Jeyne Pool for example. What is that surname based on? | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:17 | comment | added | Kepotx | Both of your examples, Janos Slynt and Allan Deem are not small folks anymore but nobles. Do you ask how did they choose a name for their new Houses? | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:12 | comment | added | TheLethalCarrot♦ | Janos Slynt was a Lord who founded is own house. I can write up a longer answer though if that question doesn't answer yours enough? | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:07 | history | edited | Paul | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:06 | comment | added | Paul | The problem with that answer @TheLethalCarrot is that despite it claiming to be an answer from GRRM it doesn't answer the fact that he has commoners with surnames (examples I gave were Alar Deem and Janos Slynt). | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:03 | comment | added | TheLethalCarrot♦ | TL;DR: Only nobles get surnames | |
| Apr 9, 2018 at 12:00 | history | asked | Paul | CC BY-SA 3.0 |