Timeline for In what ways does the Fantastic Beasts series contradict original canon?
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| Mar 25, 2019 at 18:20 | comment | added | Lefteris008 | But Malfoy was unaware of the fact he was the Master of the Elder Wand at that time; surely, he didn't left the EW intentionally in a safe place and used another one, like Grindelwald/Graves. | |
| Mar 25, 2019 at 18:12 | comment | added | Michael Richardson | For point #3, Harry gained ownership of the Elder Wand by defeating Malfoy, armed with his own wand, while the Elder Wand was someplace else entirely. | |
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| Nov 25, 2018 at 12:12 | comment | added | ibid | The fact that you can find a few possible roundabout off-screen excuses for a contradiction the movie makes doesn't make them not contradictions, especially if you have nothing to show that your explanations are correct. And some of them clearly aren't. Minerva was named after her maternal grandmother, who had a different last name. The screenplay says it's just a younger version of HP character, and Pottermore has already acknowledged the inconsistency by trying to edit stuff. Rowling has talked about the elder wand several times on her website/twitter, not just through characters views. | |
| Nov 23, 2018 at 11:44 | comment | added | Gunnar Södergren | Regarding 3: Tina did not disarm Graveselwald, she used Accio after he voluntarily dropped the wand to the ground. It's not shown in the movie, but it's stated in the script. | |
| Nov 21, 2018 at 19:24 | comment | added | Janus Bahs Jacquet | The bit about McGonagall needs some editing – the woman in the movie cannot be her maternal grandmother Minerva, because the name McGonagall comes from the paternal side. Her mother’s maiden name was not McGonagall. | |
| Nov 21, 2018 at 7:57 | history | edited | Lefteris008 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 19, 2018 at 17:07 | comment | added | Lefteris008 | And who said that there are no counter-spells to hide what happened from the casters of the spell? | |
| Nov 19, 2018 at 17:02 | comment | added | Professeur Dronte | @Lefteris008 and TylerH : yes, advanced magic, but Dumbledore could probably cast the spell and find who / what is petrifiying his students in school // The ministry had (probably) competent witches and wizards at the World Cup. I'm not saying that Harry or even Hermione could cast it, but Newt is not the only guy on Earth capable to such thing. The only explanation I could think of, is that Newt is the inventor of that spell (like Snape for the Sectumsempra) and had never shared it, but the movie does'nt tell us that :/ | |
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| Nov 19, 2018 at 16:27 | comment | added | Notts90 | Regarding number one, do we have any more than Grindelwald’s word that Credence is a Dumbledore? If not, it could yet be that he’s lying to get Credence to do his bidding. | |
| S Nov 19, 2018 at 16:03 | history | suggested | TylerH | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 19, 2018 at 15:58 | comment | added | TylerH | @ProfesseurDronte Keep in mind Newt is clearly an incredibly talented wizard; he has a singular affinity for seemingly all magical beasts that even Rubeus Hagrid would envy, and he's quite skilled with charms. He's talented enough to play a major role in the capture of the most famous dark wizard in history before Voldemort... so talented that Albus Dumbledore asks him to pursue Grindelwald, and the Ministry of Magic specially requests that he join the Auror department. It's likely that most witches or wizards aren't capable or even aware of the types of spells Newt can utilize. | |
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| Nov 19, 2018 at 15:52 | comment | added | syntonicC | @Lefteris008 I don't know about an older version of the Pottermore page but this SE answer establishes her birth year as 1935 using quotes from, presumably, the older Pottermore page. Also note that JK Rowling did give an interview (see SE answer) stating that McGonagoll was 70 but it is not clear exactly when she was this age. | |
| Nov 19, 2018 at 12:58 | comment | added | Lefteris008 | @ProfesseurDronte This is advanced magic. Harry didn't even know how to cast a Disillusionment Charm and used the Invisibility Cloak and you expect him to cast this? :P | |
| Nov 19, 2018 at 11:13 | comment | added | Professeur Dronte | There is this spell that helps Newt to find Tina in Paris. I don't know its name, but it shows how was a scene in previous recent time : where was Tina, who talked to her, the apperance of the stranger who talked to her (= Yusuf Kama) It's not a real contradiction, but why don't they use this pretty useful spell to find who petrifies people in Hogwarts during the 2nd year, who caused troubles at the Quidditch World Cup, etc. etc. Such a bad thing that this marvelous spell only existed in the 20's ... | |
| Nov 19, 2018 at 10:45 | comment | added | Valorum | No birth year, but they'be removed a mention of her growing up in the early part of the 20th Century | |
| Nov 19, 2018 at 9:47 | comment | added | Lefteris008 | I agree with you. Just trying to provide some logical arguments against the "canon contradiction" that it is implied and still the "39 not consecutive years" is more logical than "paraphrase, out-of-character dialog" etc. For me, JKR intentionally changed her mind and added McGonagall in FB for fan service but we have to agree that her birth details are neither solid, nor fixed in any official work whatsoever. | |
| Nov 19, 2018 at 8:59 | comment | added | Janus Bahs Jacquet | McGonagall is also shown as being a Hogwarts teacher in around 1910 in the flashbacks, which would make her around the same age as Dumbledore. And the phrasing “39 years this December” very heavily implies 39 consecutive years; it would be a highly unusual way of expressing it otherwise, particularly for someone as meticulous and precise as McGonagall. | |
| Nov 19, 2018 at 8:37 | comment | added | Lefteris008 | I was not aware of that. To tell you the truth, I don't remember that article word-by-word when I read it some time ago; is there any link with the old version? Was there a birth year mentioned? | |
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| Nov 19, 2018 at 8:31 | comment | added | Valorum | You might wish to note that Prof. McGonagoll's Pottermore more article has recently (April) been updated to remove information that now seems to contradict the films | |
| Nov 19, 2018 at 8:25 | history | answered | Lefteris008 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |