Timeline for Can a Hogwarts student refuse the Sorting Hat's decision?
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| Aug 7, 2019 at 16:00 | comment | added | Pieter Geerkens | @KRyan: It's really zero-year Neville who is being sorted. Neville has only been on the Hogwarts premises for a couple of hours at that point, and first-year Neville really creates the impression of "*typical Neville averaged over the course of first year". | |
| Aug 7, 2019 at 14:20 | comment | added | user3067860 | @TheDarkLord We have examples of parents removing students for other reasons. But I think even "we don't know" would be a good addition. | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 21:18 | comment | added | Joshua | @TheDarkLord: But I can. Maybe not right away but if a student just doesn't fit something will have to be done. | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 20:25 | comment | added | The Dark Lord | @user3067860 We never have any examples like that. Given that the Sorting Hat is the only means of sorting and the Sorting Hat never changes its mind, a student who really can't tolerate the house they're given with have little choice but to leave. Judging by the prestige of Hogwarts and how almost every wizard/witch is educated there I can't really see anybody doing that. | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 15:31 | comment | added | user3067860 | This doesn't really answer the question of what would happen if the SH sorted, but the student objected even though they were sorted. "Yes, the SH put me in x, but I refuse, instead I will _______..." (For example, we know it's possible for parents to pull their children out of Hogwarts...) | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 12:06 | comment | added | ratchet freak | @KRyan Even end-of-first-year Neville is strong-willed enough to stand up against his peers for something he believed in, as evidenced at the end of the first book. (He even got 10 points for that action). | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 11:14 | vote | accept | Mor Zamir | ||
| Aug 6, 2019 at 10:49 | comment | added | The Dark Lord | @KRyan Okeydokey. | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 10:47 | history | edited | The Dark Lord | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 6, 2019 at 10:45 | comment | added | The Dark Lord | @Ray Not quite. Clearly Neville did have the courage to stand up to the hat (proving, ironically I suppose, that he belonged in Gryffindor). I'm saying that in a prolonged disagreement that Neville isn't the sort of person who would refuse to back down. He started the conflict but probably didn't want to insist on getting his way. | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 8:55 | comment | added | Ray | "Neville isn't exactly a strong-willed person who would put up a good fight" So essentially, if Neville had the courage to stand up to the hat, it would place him in Hufflepuff, but if he went along with what the hat wanted because he was too nice to argue, he'd be placed in Griffindor? | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 3:00 | comment | added | KRyan | “Neville isn't exactly a strong-willed person who would put up a good fight,” I request this sentence be converted to the past-tense, or some qualifier like “First-year Neville,” since that description is rather inaccurate for Neville in later years (which helps prove the point that the Sorting Hat does its job well). | |
| Aug 6, 2019 at 2:31 | comment | added | Allan Mills | I have to wonder if the hat is looking at the potential in each new student as much as their current personality. Neville doesn't exactly come across a Gryffindor material being, as he is, dominated by his grandmother. But, given time and motivation, he turns himself into a skilled wizard. | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 21:32 | comment | added | EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine | Actually, the strength of the argument re: Peter Pettigrew could be a separate question (unless there's a dupe that I don't know about), if someone could formulate it in a way that's not POB. | |
| Aug 5, 2019 at 13:04 | history | answered | The Dark Lord | CC BY-SA 4.0 |