Timeline for Do Klingons have escape pods?
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Nov 23, 2019 at 19:33 | comment | added | einpoklum | "Today is a good day to..." : 1. "Die! Grrr!" 2. "Mmm.... escape in a pod." What do you think the Klingons would choose? | |
Nov 22, 2019 at 21:44 | vote | accept | Matt | ||
Nov 22, 2019 at 8:33 | comment | added | Holger | @Alarion when a Klingon’s mission is do deliver a freight or important person, there might be honor in putting it or them into an escape pod while staying at the ship and holding the enemy until the escape pod reached a safe target. We could also see it that way: there is no honor in staying at the ship when you have no choice. Staying at the ship and keep fighting when you could have used an escape pod instead, is another thing. | |
Nov 22, 2019 at 1:20 | comment | added | Chronocidal | Klingons might use escape pods outside of combat: "Long ago, a storm was heading for the city of Quin'lat. Everyone took protection within the walls except one man who remained outside. I went to him and asked what he was doing. "I am not afraid," the man said. "I will not hide my face behind stone and mortar. I will stand before the wind and make it respect me." I honored his choice and went inside. The next day, the storm came, and the man was killed. The wind does not respect a fool" ~ Kahless, TNG S06E23 "Rightful Heir" | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 21:36 | comment | added | Paul D. Waite | There is no honour in escape pods. | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 21:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackSciFi/status/1197620701081018377 | ||
Nov 21, 2019 at 18:12 | answer | added | Valorum | timeline score: 32 | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 17:34 | answer | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | timeline score: 10 | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 15:52 | comment | added | Shawn V. Wilson | @Alarion I could see the Klingon High Command and the heads of the KDF deciding that a warrior who survives is more of an asset than one who died with honor. But it's like putting seatbelts on a school bus: no one wants to be ridiculed for using them. | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 15:43 | comment | added | Shawn V. Wilson | T'Pol could simply be misinfomed. That probably wasn't the writers' intent, but it's a good retroactive explanation. | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 9:17 | comment | added | Luaan | Wasn't the BoP model in s04ep06 decades older than in s01e14? Klingon culture has changed massively over time. Remember that Klingon lawyer's lament that in his younger days, there was honor in doing things other than being a bloodlusty warrior? | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 9:02 | answer | added | Smartybartfast | timeline score: 11 | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 8:22 | history | became hot network question | |||
Nov 21, 2019 at 0:32 | answer | added | Omegacron | timeline score: 29 | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 0:25 | comment | added | Matt | @Alarion that's interesting she does say 'use escape pods' not 'have them', but that would mean that she still dismissed a way of possibly avoiding certain death, which doesn't seem logical. If they couldn't find a way out they were dead, the pod would still be an option even if it might need some modification. Dismissing it still makes no sense (if they are there) | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 0:16 | comment | added | Alarion | There's also a difference between a ship not having escape pods, and and the crew just not using them. They could be there, but the Klingons might be unwilling to use them. That would resolve the contradiction in the quotes, but it begs the obvious question of why bother installing them if no one will use them. | |
Nov 21, 2019 at 0:10 | comment | added | Matt | If you are on a ship that about to be crushed (and looking for ways to get off) then saying there are no escape pods makes no sense, unless you know for sure | |
Nov 20, 2019 at 23:57 | comment | added | Matt | @Cadence there is a difference between ruling out something based on the best and most current scientific understanding (that cant be proved) and giving a statement that can easily be proven. In general the Vulcan's don't even volunteer information if they don't know one way or another, so it implies that there was some evidence to support her claim or she would have said something like 'its unlikely this vessel would have escape pods' | |
Nov 20, 2019 at 23:48 | comment | added | Valorum | It doesn't seem honourable to stay on a ship that's exploding as a result of running across a spatial anomaly | |
Nov 20, 2019 at 23:47 | comment | added | Cadence | In "Sleeping Dogs" the crew is relying mainly on Vulcan scientific records rather than any direct experience with Klingons. This would be the same Vulcan science directorate that says time travel is impossible... | |
Nov 20, 2019 at 23:45 | history | edited | Stormblessed | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Nov 20, 2019 at 23:36 | history | edited | Matt | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Nov 20, 2019 at 23:16 | history | asked | Matt | CC BY-SA 4.0 |