Timeline for How did Picard break free from the Collective exactly?
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| Oct 1, 2020 at 15:16 | comment | added | Tom Lint | @Iota What he says in First Contact doesn't necessarily contradict anything from TNG:Family. You can easily add a "And I failed." as an afterthought of his at the end of his statement from First Contact and have it align more with what happened in BoBW. He tried to resist, but the Borg programming was stronger. His resistance, however, meant that the Queen's plan to have him retain his individuality was put on ice, and he was turned into something closer a normal drone, instead. | |
| Jul 20, 2020 at 16:07 | comment | added | Iota | I've always found that improvised nonsense in First Contact, about some sort of triumphant battle of wills with the Borg Queen, quite hard to reconcile with Picard's previous recounting of events, in TNG: "Family": "You don't know, Robert. You don't know. They took everything I was. They used me to kill and to destroy, and I couldn't stop them. I should have been able to stop them! I tried. I tried so hard, but I wasn't strong enough. I wasn't good enough. I should have been able to stop them. I should! I should!" | |
| Jul 17, 2020 at 16:09 | comment | added | Valorum | @RobJackson - Comments with "thanks" in them are often flagged as noise | |
| Jul 17, 2020 at 15:51 | comment | added | Rob Jackson | Who removed my "Thanks, bro" comment SMH | |
| Jul 17, 2020 at 13:45 | comment | added | T.J.L. | @RobJackson The Borg were not "purely robotic" before the film, nor did they have a conscience. | |
| Jul 16, 2020 at 23:55 | vote | accept | Rob Jackson | ||
| Jul 16, 2020 at 23:44 | comment | added | Rob Jackson | interesting. I will say, on an unrelated note, my problem is that "First Contact" made it seem that the Borg were telepathic and while it didn't necessarily start the whole Borg Queen who runs the entire Borg (to be fair she only was on the Enterprise for the disconnected Borg), it set the seeds for all other kinda nonsense that wasn't true to the Borg. The Borg were purely robotic, cyborg and mechanical (with a conscience and sentience at that) before "First Contact." Picard was implied to be purely cured with his only damage being psychological. "First Contact" changed that. | |
| Jul 16, 2020 at 23:26 | history | answered | Valorum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |