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Oct 10, 2012 at 17:21 comment added Donald.McLean Work, not novel. Duh.
Oct 10, 2012 at 17:20 comment added Donald.McLean @DVK The ISFDB lists "The Adults" as being published in the June 1967 issue of Galaxy. Wikipedia describes it as making up the first half of Protector. That would make it the earliest Niven novel to mention the Pak origin of humanity.
Oct 10, 2012 at 14:41 comment added DVK-on-Ahch-To @dmckee - "Bordered in Black" - a very interesting story - thanks for mentioning! - the fact that it is not Earth doesn't make it a valid answer to this Q.
Oct 10, 2012 at 13:50 comment added Mike Scott @MarkBeadles In World of Ptavvs, humans may or may not have descended from thrintun food yeast, over 1.5 billion years. It's certainly not an example of seeding a planet with human beings, or anything approximating to human beings.
Oct 10, 2012 at 13:44 comment added Gorchestopher H @MikeScott I suppose it all blurred together in my mind.
Oct 10, 2012 at 13:27 comment added Mike Scott @GorchestopherH Correct. The Ringworld Engineers has lots of Protectors in it -- but it was published in 1980, well after Protector. Ringworld did not mention them.
Oct 10, 2012 at 13:11 comment added DVK-on-Ahch-To @all, can someone please provide a more authoritative information on which of Niven's works first introduced not just The Pak but specifically the idea that humans (or all Earth primates) evolved from them?
Oct 9, 2012 at 21:11 comment added dmckee --- ex-moderator kitten Come to think of it, "Bordered in Black" also uses the seeding hypothesis, though not of Earth. That was published in 1966.
Oct 9, 2012 at 17:52 comment added Gorchestopher H @MikeScott They do in the Ringworld Trillogy. Is it not till the second book (Engineers) that they mention them? Either way "The Adults" is part one of "The Protectors", and predates it by 6 years. I believe, but do not have a quotation, that the Pak were described as ancestors to humanity in "The Adults".
Oct 9, 2012 at 17:36 comment added dmckee --- ex-moderator kitten "What Can You Say About Chocolate Covered Manhole Covers?" uses the seeding hypothesis and was collected in All the Myriad Ways in 1971. Can't seem to find the original publication date.
Oct 9, 2012 at 17:27 comment added Mike Scott Protectors were not mentioned in Ringworld.
Oct 9, 2012 at 17:14 comment added Gorchestopher H I thought it was Ringworld 1970. I am not sure if Pak Breeders were mentioned in "The Adults". Maybe a Niven expert can verify this.
Oct 9, 2012 at 17:07 comment added Xantec @GorchestopherH When was the idea that humans were descended from the Pak introduced?
Oct 9, 2012 at 16:35 comment added Gorchestopher H Niven introduces the Pak as early as "The Adults" in 1967.
Oct 9, 2012 at 16:28 history answered Mike Scott CC BY-SA 3.0