Timeline for Which did Tolkien create first, Utumno or Angband?
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Oct 14, 2021 at 6:05 | comment | added | ibid | GL wasn't written until 1917, possibly after Tolkien was already using the places in his stories. As I've tried showing in my answer, they first appeared in QL sometime before March 1916 (and thus before all of the stories), though we don't know exactly what Tolkien thought they meant at the time. | |
Oct 14, 2021 at 5:26 | comment | added | David Roberts | @ibid thanks! As you say, it's not 100% clear how early those word entries date. My inclination is that it's when places entered the stories that the OP wanted. I included the GL references to show that the word may well have existed, even if not included in the narrative. | |
Oct 13, 2021 at 16:08 | comment | added | ibid | Here's how it looks in PE#12, page 99. | |
Oct 13, 2021 at 11:54 | comment | added | David Roberts | @ibid Aha, it is glossed so in Poetic and Mythological Words of Eldarissa, just not in Gnomish Lexicon: eldamo.org/content/words/word-3293124365.html But you evidently had more extensive references to hand! | |
Oct 13, 2021 at 6:05 | comment | added | ibid | Utumna is never glossed as "lower regions" in the Gnomish Lexicon. | |
Oct 13, 2021 at 3:13 | history | answered | David Roberts | CC BY-SA 4.0 |