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Nov 19, 2021 at 19:33 comment added Valorum It was clear that the Idiran War was mutually started. The Idirans largely considered that they were already at war and that the formal start of proceedings was merely paperwork; "The war, long before it was finally declared, was regarded by the Idiran high command as a continuation of the permanent hostilities demanded by theological and disciplinary colonization, involving a quantitative and qualitative escalation of armed conflict of only a limited degree to cope with the relatively equivalent technological expertise of the Culture."
Nov 19, 2021 at 19:25 comment added DavidW I'm not sure on whose part you're claiming that Culture meddling was grounds for the war. Consider Phlebas was quite clear that the Culture initiated the conflict.
Nov 19, 2021 at 19:21 comment added Valorum That's what we call an assumption. Now back it up with evidence
Nov 19, 2021 at 19:19 comment added DavidW To use an imperfect analogy, it's like you're growing a crop. A nearby river floods, threatening to destroy your fields. After you have saved the fields from the flood, do you grow more because of the flood? No, that wouldn't be the reason.
Nov 19, 2021 at 19:19 comment added Valorum The Idiran war was fought on (amongst other ground) the fact that the Culture was meddlesome. It's not clear whether, having won the war, they decided to meddle more or relaxed and actually meddled less.
Nov 19, 2021 at 19:18 comment added DavidW @Valorum It was never the Idirans they were worried about when interfering; it was only the HLI/Elder/Sublimed civilizations they had to keep on the good side of. Would it help if I added additional material to the effect that the Culture only cared about the Idirans because the Idirans could prevent/undo their good works?
Nov 19, 2021 at 19:12 comment added Valorum The question isn't whether they interfere, it's whether after the Idirans stopped being a threat to the Culture, whether they used this as carte blanche to interfere more.
Nov 19, 2021 at 18:53 history answered DavidW CC BY-SA 4.0