Timeline for How can Mars compete with Earth economically or militarily?
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| Dec 20, 2022 at 21:42 | comment | added | MPelletier | Short answer: The dream of terraformation. All Martians believe in the dream and work towards it. That drives the population to work extra hard, spare no effort, despite the overly militaristic society they've built. | |
| Nov 2, 2022 at 8:42 | comment | added | AcePL | @RussellMcMahon - yes I did. Using bits from it in my thinking, but it's of limited use here. Nice point for others to do some thinking, too, so thanks. | |
| Nov 1, 2022 at 18:22 | comment | added | Russell McMahon | Have you read Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy "Red Mars", "Green Mars", "Blue Mars" - which covers one version of this? Also "WHite Mars" as an interesting add on. | |
| Nov 1, 2022 at 13:47 | answer | added | user1401321 | timeline score: 8 | |
| Nov 1, 2022 at 2:24 | comment | added | Adamant | But in any case, to judge from the answers, Earth has rather more of a social welfare state in The Expanse compared to Mars, so I doubt "less influence from wealthy people in politics" can be an explanation there. If anything, Mars should be worse off. | |
| Nov 1, 2022 at 2:23 | comment | added | Adamant | Wealth inequality does have pernicious effects, but I am not sure in what quantifiable sense the world could "improve tenfold" in a decade under any circumstance; I doubt you are thinking of a life expectancy of seven hundred years or ten times the GDP per capita. Though I concede that a median income of around USD 10,000 is theoretically possible, though it evidently would not automatically equate to a much stronger military. Some of the strongest militaries on the planet per population (USA, North Korea) are in societies with high wealth inequality. | |
| Nov 1, 2022 at 0:02 | comment | added | AcePL | @Lexible Which portions would that be? Because I don't think the word you used means what you think it means... | |
| Nov 1, 2022 at 0:01 | answer | added | Ian Kemp | timeline score: 3 | |
| Oct 31, 2022 at 23:00 | comment | added | lvella | I don't see any sloppy writing. Any kind of politics and/or social behavior that affects economical development are highly non-linear. As a progressive person, I believe that simply removing the wealth accumulation interests of the ruling elite from current Earth politics, the world could improve tenfold in 10 years. | |
| Oct 31, 2022 at 22:54 | answer | added | Yasskier | timeline score: 12 | |
| Oct 31, 2022 at 19:35 | answer | added | Michael | timeline score: 10 | |
| Oct 31, 2022 at 19:15 | comment | added | chepner | Also, I can't vouch for the accuracy of this page, but it states the population of Mars is four billion (books) or nine billion (show), which is in line with what I remembered reading in one of the books. | |
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| Oct 31, 2022 at 16:50 | comment | added | chepner | Mars didn't have to beat Earth so much as they just had to avoid being beaten by Earth, which would have almost certainly involved an outrageously expensive invasion and occupation. | |
| Oct 31, 2022 at 16:14 | comment | added | Lexible | Question would be improved by removing ranting portions. | |
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| Oct 31, 2022 at 13:27 | comment | added | AcePL | @ToddWilcox - evidence of Rare "earth" elements in samples of surface soil does not rich deposit make. But I will roll with it: You have to have an extensive mining, refining and transportation industries to make it happen. It's either highly automated (thus VERY expensive in purchase and maintenance) or manpower intensive. Startup colonies can have some of that paid by investors, but at some point they need to cover that themselves. Mars may have money, true, but not possible to have enough to pay for EVERYTHING.... Look at China today - they invested in mfg export and now it's all crumbling. | |
| Oct 31, 2022 at 12:36 | comment | added | Todd Wilcox | Mars is rich in useful elements and they are more accessible than on Earth: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… Once Mars became independent, they may have been able to quickly build an economy since belters and earthers need those resources and they may have grown scarce and difficult to mine on Earth. | |
| Oct 31, 2022 at 10:54 | answer | added | Jontia | timeline score: 13 | |
| Oct 31, 2022 at 10:33 | answer | added | Shade | timeline score: 20 | |
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