Timeline for Why Isn't "Balance to the Force" Everlasting?
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| Nov 2, 2023 at 11:02 | comment | added | Gordon | @EikePierstorff That would mean that basically everyone at the time had misinterpreted it. | |
| Nov 2, 2023 at 7:21 | comment | added | Eike Pierstorff | Maybe the "balance" is really a case of dynamic equilibrium ("when the forward and reverse processes occur at the same rate, resulting in no observable change in the system"), given that both sides seem to win and lose at the same rate, which means over a longer time frame things were pretty static. Had Anakin remained a good guy the light side might have won and that would have unbalanced things, so he had to turn into Vader (oops, I think I accidentally re-invented one of the more popular fan theories). | |
| Nov 1, 2023 at 21:44 | answer | added | PoopyPants82 | timeline score: 1 | |
| Sep 26, 2023 at 5:21 | comment | added | RedCaio | The prophecy was always insignificant my friend. George Lucas came up with the prophecy as a lazy way to make the prequels and Anakin seem more interesting. When he thought there’d only be the six films he said Anakin was the chosen one to bring balance. But when he started drafting his own sequel trilogy he was going to retcon Leia to be the actual chosen one. Once again just a lazy way to make the new movies seem more important. He ultimately sold his outlines and Lucasfilm to Disney and they used many of his ideas. They wisely chose not to dwell on prophecies this time though. | |
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| Sep 4, 2023 at 14:51 | comment | added | Spencer | I'm tempted to drag out Baldrick's roundabout way of asking why World War I started. | |
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| Aug 14, 2023 at 0:10 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | Well, this section of the "canon" version of the Wookieepedia "Chosen One" article brings up the question but doesn't indicate there's anything that really resolves it, though they do mention the visual guide for The Last Jedi had said Kylo Ren and Snoke weren't Sith so they didn't conflict with the prophecy. Maybe you could imagine a half-assed explanation that the Sidious clone was a dark side user but didn't "count" as a Sith either, since he was just a kind of copy of the original Sidious who'd been initiated by Plagueis. | |
| Aug 13, 2023 at 20:27 | comment | added | Gordon | @Hypnosifl I'm just wondering if it is possible to make sense of it from an in-universe perspective. I know Disney screwed it up like it did a lot of movie sagas. | |
| Aug 13, 2023 at 17:27 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | Are you asking for an in-universe answer, or would you consider an out-of-universe answer? If the latter I think @Valorum is right, and Disney basically retconned the prophecy into becoming fairly meaningless in a way that clearly went against how Lucas saw it. In one quote from the article I linked, Lucas said (before the sequel movies) that some of the EU sequel stories went against his intentions, because "The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn't come back to life, the Emperor doesn't get cloned and Luke doesn't get married" | |
| Aug 13, 2023 at 11:46 | comment | added | Gordon | @Valorum That is true, and Star Wars fans are stuck trying to make sense of it. | |
| Aug 13, 2023 at 11:45 | comment | added | Valorum | Because they pulled Palpatine coming back right out of their arses when they realised that audiences thought the previous two films sucked | |
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| Aug 13, 2023 at 10:53 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | @DavidW - George Lucas did think Anakin fulfilled the prophecy by killing the Emperor and then dying himself, thus ending the Sith--see the "Behind the scenes" section of the wookieepedia Legends article on "The Chosen One" | |
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| Aug 13, 2023 at 3:04 | comment | added | Cadence | My impression of Episode 1 was that the Council didn't really believe in the prophecy, but they went along with it to humor Qui-gon and because, after all, somebody did need to teach Anakin to control his powers. They weren't looking for the "chosen one" and they didn't really seem all that impressed with him once they had him. | |
| Aug 13, 2023 at 2:41 | comment | added | DavidW | Or maybe, since Anakin fell to the Dark side, perhaps he turned out not to be the chosen one, and the prophecy failed? Obi-Wan does say "You were the Chosen One!" (emphasis mine) which suggests his failure means he is no longer. And prophecies aren't quite the kind of thing you can say "okay, what's plan B?" with. | |
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