Timeline for Why didn't Gimli know Moria had fallen?
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Mar 9, 2013 at 23:41 | comment | added | Stefan | Or possibly Gandalf?? ;-) | |
Dec 31, 2012 at 20:36 | comment | added | balanced mama | Okay that is really funny! I'm reading HP to my daughter right now. Obviously, I meant Gandolf. | |
Dec 31, 2012 at 19:20 | comment | added | Andres F. | @balancedmama Dumbledore!? :P | |
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Dec 31, 2012 at 18:05 | comment | added | balanced mama | I have since learned that in the books it is also Aragorn that is the most reluctant and not Dumbledore. Given that info plus yours, I feel things are a lot more clear now. I liked or at least understood most of Jackson's changes in the Movie Trilogy, I'm thinking this one was a little over-played by Rhys-Davies or underplayed by Mortensen, or poorly edited here and would have to say, a disappointing shift made by Jackson in the movies. | |
Dec 17, 2012 at 23:33 | history | edited | Andres F. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Dec 17, 2012 at 23:25 | comment | added | Andres F. |
Galadriel's quote, which shows an understanding of Gimli's desire to see Moria, is: If our folk had been exiled long and far from Lothlórien, who of the Galadhrim, even Celeborn the Wise, would pass nigh and would not wish to look upon their ancient home, though it had become an abode of dragons?
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Dec 17, 2012 at 23:17 | comment | added | Andres F. | @balancedmama I can only speculate. First, Moria wasn't their first choice; they tried Caradhras first, but the mountain proved too dangerous. Second, Gandalf only suspected Durin's Bane was actually a Balrog; if he had known for sure, I guess he wouldn't have taken the Fellowship down that road. And last, Gimli was blinded by his desire to see Moria. I remember Galadriel said something to that effect later, comparing Gimli's desire to see Moria to that of an Elf wishing to see Lorien even it that realm had fallen to the enemy. (sorry, don't have the exact quote) | |
Dec 17, 2012 at 21:48 | comment | added | balanced mama | Thank you, that shortens the timeline in my mind somewhat (as I had forgotten that detail). However, it still leaves me wondering why Gimli had no idea - especially given Gandalf's reluctance. If he knew there was danger, why did he discuss it as if there wasn't any at all and not pick up on Gandalf's reservations? | |
Dec 17, 2012 at 21:32 | history | answered | Andres F. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |