Timeline for Extent of the Westron language
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| Apr 19 at 9:16 | comment | added | Eugene | @DavidRoberts The Gateway says Taliska is unlike Tolkien's "a priori" languages and "based directly on the Germanic languages", suggesting it's "a posteriori". Yet it's in the phonological table in PE19 as if it's of the Elvish language family. I wonder how that works. Can it be both directly Germanic and Elvish? | |
| Apr 19 at 7:51 | comment | added | David Roberts | And this comment from a chat page on TG!!: But any case I think we should keep the article for Taliska, similarly as we have articles for Gnomish and Noldorin, specially because the next Parma Eldalamberon is supposed to be Taliska materials.--LorenzoCB (talk) 09:45, 17 May 2023 (UTC) | |
| Apr 19 at 7:43 | comment | added | David Roberts | There is allegedly a "rather complete" grammar of tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Taliska, which is the language from which Adûnaic developed. Hostetter reported it was 272 pages long (!). But it is also unpublished, in any form, with it being a work-in-progress to prepare it for publication. | |
| Apr 19 at 4:07 | comment | added | Eugene | @ibid Thanks a bunch. You are amazing! | |
| Apr 19 at 3:53 | answer | added | ibid | timeline score: 10 | |
| Apr 19 at 3:13 | comment | added | ibid | @Eugene - Tyalie Tyelellieva no.17. Includes a page by page one-line description of the folder from Marquette's archives that contains the material, as well as an overview of the grammar and a wordlist derived from that material. This was not an authorized publication, and so sources like eldamo pretend it doesn't exist. | |
| Apr 19 at 2:32 | comment | added | Eugene | With Adunaic we do have real sentences and some grammar from Tolkien: folk.uib.no/hnohf/adunaic.htm | |
| Apr 19 at 2:24 | comment | added | Eugene | @ibid Which fanzine is it? Does it contain any new words, grammar, anything? | |
| Apr 19 at 2:02 | comment | added | ibid | @Eugene - It's in one of the archives open to researchers. Someone wrote up a bit about them in a fanzine. | |
| Apr 19 at 1:12 | comment | added | Mithoron | Westron and Adunaic? | |
| Apr 19 at 1:11 | comment | added | Eugene | I think this is the complete collection based on published materials: eldamo.org/content/word-indexes/words-wes.html I don't think you can form a sentence with these. | |
| Apr 19 at 1:05 | comment | added | Eugene | @ibid Wow, a few dozen pages are well beyond my expectation. Where is it mentioned? Somewhere in HoMe? Wonder what does it take for the Estate to publish them while the readers willing to pay are still kicking. | |
| Apr 18 at 23:47 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Apr 18 at 23:45 | comment | added | ibid | The majority of Tolkien's writings on this language are still unpublished. A few dozen pages I think. | |
| Apr 18 at 23:21 | history | edited | DavidW |
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| Apr 18 at 23:21 | comment | added | DavidW | Basically your question is "are there any known fragments or translations of the Westron language?" | |
| S Apr 18 at 23:16 | review | First questions | |||
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| S Apr 18 at 23:16 | history | asked | LoreRax | CC BY-SA 4.0 |