Timeline for How did the cookfire get hot enough to melt gold in Game of Thrones?
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| Dec 10, 2020 at 8:59 | history | edited | SQB | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 7, 2013 at 15:13 | comment | added | Manishearth | Who said it had to be a coal fire? It can be a wood fire, which can reach a thousand degrees. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… If they had added methane (which can be collected from horse dung) or some other similar fuel, it could even go to 2000. | |
| Jan 4, 2013 at 4:55 | vote | accept | Geoff | ||
| Jan 4, 2013 at 2:49 | comment | added | Thaddeus Howze | Worn gold is almost never mixed with Tin or Lead. The metals most commonly mixed with gold are there to HARDEN it because of the very soft and ductile nature of pure gold. It is an unusual circumstance to add other metals to gold to soften and already soft metal. Gold is most commonly mixed with copper, silver, rhodium, nickel, palladium. All of these metals will lower the melting point but strengthen the gold. Gold and Tin alloys are used only in electronics which needs softer, easier to melt metals. | |
| Jan 4, 2013 at 2:00 | history | edited | Thaddeus Howze | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 4, 2013 at 0:14 | comment | added | Mark Beadles | This answer looks good superficially, but has a lot of individual problems with the figures. Gold alloys do not necessarily have lower melting points with greater impurity; instead there is a more complex relationship revealed by phase diagrams. 18K red gold melts at a lower temperature (~1670F) than either 24K or 10K gold. A 70% Gold-30% Tin alloy has a eutectic point as low as 570F; etc. So in general, with a gold alloy the melting temperatures are quite achievable with a wood or charcoal flame under normal atmosphere. See the answer at Skeptics.SE for a thorough explanation. | |
| Jan 3, 2013 at 23:06 | history | edited | Thaddeus Howze | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 3, 2013 at 22:46 | comment | added | TLP | Well, it's not really a big point to argue about. All I am saying is that since fire comes close to the temperature required, it is not inconceivable that gold (alloy) would melt. And that might be GRRM's rationale as well. You cannot compare iron and brass to gold, though. And if you want to argue the temperature of fire, I would like to see some quotation on that. | |
| Jan 3, 2013 at 9:23 | comment | added | TLP | Checking up wikipedia for "flame" and "fire" it seems even a candle (1100C) could melt gold (1064C). A fire that burns at 650F (340C) would not even light a safety match (~500C), so I think you've got your numbers wrong there. | |
| Jan 3, 2013 at 4:32 | history | edited | Thaddeus Howze | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 3, 2013 at 4:25 | history | answered | Thaddeus Howze | CC BY-SA 3.0 |