Timeline for Why is Miracle Day such a problem in the short term?
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| Jan 22, 2013 at 12:07 | comment | added | Simon Hibbs | I'm with Maciej. People won't confront policies like this as long as they are affecting 'other people', but this policy is guaranteed to affect you personally. That's very different. | |
| Jan 9, 2013 at 14:54 | comment | added | Maja Piechotka | AD. constant rate - you did but I pointed out why it would be too crude estimation IMHO. Regarding Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia - IIRC for majority of population it was sufficient to keep head down and not be afraid of random events. | |
| Jan 9, 2013 at 13:45 | comment | added | BBlake | It happened all the time in WWII Germany. It happened all the time in Soviet Russia. That's just two examples from history. Where were the people rising up and putting a stop to it there? And I did specifically state that "Assuming that rate remains constant after people stop dying". | |
| Jan 9, 2013 at 12:11 | comment | added | Maja Piechotka | 1. CBR does take it into account. However I oppose to directly apply it into exponential formula as you did - as there is highier proportion of older people the CBR would go down (there would be still similar number of births even when population is highier). 2. My problem is not that the people turn a blind eye but that there was a) sudden exclusion of b) members (or potential members) of their famillies. It's much easier for people to turn blind eye on people from other group that to hear that his best friend mother have been taken. | |
| Jan 9, 2013 at 12:00 | comment | added | BBlake | CBR already takes into account that older people (and children) do not have children. It's the average births per 1000 people of general population. The fact that some are too old and some are too young is irrelevant to CBR. It's already considered. And I agree that the general population would eventually do something about people being taken away. But not immediately. There will be a few who resist all along, but the general population is always willing to turn a blind eye to evil until they are forced to confront it. Otherwise, a great many of the world's evils would never occur. | |
| Jan 8, 2013 at 21:38 | comment | added | Maja Piechotka | Also - older people are more likely to die hence your calculation is not correct. It would be true if all population would reproduce but people 60+ are very unlikely to have children (oldest mother is 66 IIRC). | |
| Jan 8, 2013 at 21:24 | comment | added | Maja Piechotka | 1. My main problems is with population. Yes, sure people would be worried but we would not be happy with taking our grandparents to "xxx camp" 2. CDR as oppose to CBR is what differs our world from "Miracle Day" world. While the change is large in long term the UK/US (i.e. countries presented) is smaller and the impact would be (in short term) lower. | |
| Jan 8, 2013 at 21:13 | history | answered | BBlake | CC BY-SA 3.0 |