Timeline for Why didn't Aragorn keep going with the army of the dead?
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Apr 6, 2022 at 23:55 | comment | added | PJTraill | Voted down for the unsubstantiated claim that they could easily have defeated Sauron. | |
Dec 31, 2015 at 20:49 | comment | added | Misha R | @Wlerin Your correction to my comment was that Aragorn needed to keep his oath in order to avoid ending up like the Dead. So him wanting to preserve his well-being is something you believe was a large part of his thinking. It is only afterwards that you mention that there is plenty of other reasons. So I couldn't have been entirely wrong, no? | |
Dec 31, 2015 at 8:37 | comment | added | Wlerin | @MishaRosnach It means I believe your comment was wrong, whereas Adeetya's answer is merely incomplete. | |
Dec 30, 2015 at 23:07 | comment | added | Misha R | @Wlerin But you chose to respond to my comment, rather than to Adeetya's answer. Does that mean you believe fear for his own honor / well-being was Aragorn's primary reason? | |
Dec 30, 2015 at 15:03 | comment | added | Wlerin | @MishaRosnach I think that Adeetya's answer is incomplete. | |
Nov 30, 2015 at 13:43 | comment | added | Misha R | @Wlerin So then you disagree with Adeetya's answer for why he did it? | |
Nov 22, 2015 at 21:50 | comment | added | Wlerin | @MishaRosnach No. There are plenty of other reasons not to bring the Dead anywhere near the Nazgul or Sauron (who they used to worship), but doing so would also have broken his promise to them. | |
Sep 17, 2015 at 5:16 | comment | added | Misha R | @Wlerin So then Aragorn put many innocent Middle Earth lives at risk for the sake of his own well-being? | |
Sep 16, 2015 at 22:57 | comment | added | Wlerin | @MishaRosnach You do realise it was disregard for their oaths that landed the Dead Men in this position in the first place, right? | |
Jun 7, 2015 at 18:40 | comment | added | Misha R | So in other words, he put many innocent Middle Earth lives at risk for the sake of his own honor? | |
Jan 10, 2014 at 1:23 | comment | added | FoxMan2099 | This answer seems too simplistic in that it doesn't deal with the fact that they specifically didn't come to the aid of the King of Gondor when it needed help. By helping Aragorn defend Minis Tirith, they had already fulfilled their oath and done what they once neglected---the didn't HAVE to do anything else to balance the scales of justice. | |
Oct 21, 2013 at 0:28 | comment | added | Andres F. | @JoshuaAslanSmith I know. I was agreeing with you and disagreeing with the answer. | |
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Apr 16, 2013 at 11:31 | comment | added | Joshua Aslan Smith | I was not saying they could, my first sentence is a statement of Sauron's power exceeding that of the oath breakers. The rest is merely an analysis of how Aragorn's actions tie into the themes of the book. | |
Apr 15, 2013 at 21:35 | comment | added | Andres F. | -1 Like @JoshuaAslanSmith says, it doesn't follow at all that the Oathbreakers could have defeated Sauron. At all. Sauron was simply beyond their league; they were merely ghosts, while the Dark Lord was some sort of minor deity. | |
Apr 15, 2013 at 20:16 | comment | added | Joshua Aslan Smith | Yes, Sauron was a much older and stronger power than the oath breakers. Those who are contesting Aragorn's actions aren't looking at it from the proper perspective. If Aragorn abused their trust (his summons and promise of freedom given upon one word) then there is little to differ Aragorn from Sauron in this respect. Likewise, thematically it makes sense for Aragorn to use the oathbreakers to save the kingdom they abandoned, thus redeeming and freeing them and righting past wrongs. | |
Apr 15, 2013 at 19:04 | comment | added | Andomar | The destruction of the One Ring destroyed Sauron. I would be suprised to learn that The Dead Men of Dunharrow were stronger than Sauron! | |
Apr 14, 2013 at 19:43 | vote | accept | Force | ||
Apr 14, 2013 at 9:15 | vote | accept | Force | ||
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Apr 14, 2013 at 5:35 | comment | added | Force | @Adeetya Good point, it's a matter of timing then, giving most of the war had happened at Minas Tirith, so he was already late.. (+1) But since he went on first to the port of Pelargir, according to the book as Major states in his answer, which is the accurate side of the story, therefore losing precious time that could've been invested in Morder. I wonder if there was any problems he would've faced from the book should he first go straight to Mordor? | |
Apr 14, 2013 at 5:22 | comment | added | user13639 | But again Minas Tirith would have been lost and Aragorn alongwith his army would never have reached Mordor in time. By the time they would have reached Mordor, Gondor would have been destroyed and the Nazgul would be back in Mordor( they can fly therefore they are faster) | |
Apr 14, 2013 at 5:18 | comment | added | Force | The Will of Sauron drived these armies. Sauron having sensed a threat would immediately call for the Nazgul, who commanded the armies at Minas Tirith. Wouldn't you agree? | |
Apr 14, 2013 at 5:11 | comment | added | user13639 | @Force If he would have taken the army to Mordor instead of Gondor, Gondor would have been lost and all the troops of Rohan would have been massacred. Therefore mankind would have been essentially wiped out. | |
Apr 14, 2013 at 5:03 | comment | added | Force | Why not go straight for Mordor instead of Gondor ending it all from the source? | |
Apr 14, 2013 at 4:39 | comment | added | Martha | The war wasn't over, but the battle most certainly was. | |
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:41 | comment | added | Force | But the evil wasn't over so the battle wasn't over, he could have went straight after.. I wonder why Tolkien limited their use to just one battle, while Sauron could have easily used his reserves (in Mordor) troops to come back and defeat the remnant men? The disadvantage was greatly clear, at the battle at The Black Gate. Tolkien was known for being accurate in his writings.. | |
Apr 14, 2013 at 3:21 | history | answered | user13639 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |