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Jun 23, 2013 at 11:19 comment added user8719 @TheMathemagician - Middle Earth was actually quite fixed in Tolkiens mind by then. The Silmarillion had been been written many times over, two of the Great Tales had been quite firmly established, The Fall of Numenor and the Last Alliance had entered, and he knew that Thu == Sauron == The Necromancer. The references in the Hobbit weren't just casual things he'd made up; they were already very well worked out and in good detail.
May 7, 2013 at 1:46 comment added TheMathemagician Well The Hobbit isn't really canon(!) Yes I'm aware how ridiculous that sounds but one of the trolls has a talking purse for goodness sake! Tolkien really hadn't fixed Middle Earth in his mind at this point.
May 6, 2013 at 21:52 comment added Andres F. @mh01 Maybe ring-making? I doubt it would even be possible without the deceits of the Enemy...
May 6, 2013 at 21:49 comment added Andres F. @mh01 I disagree. The Hobbit is a more childish story, and Bilbo is an unreliable narrator anyway. In the more "grownup" LotR, what instances are there of magic besides by the Maiar (Isari or Sauron), or the Elves (who don't truly practice magic, as per Galadriel's own words)? Even Aragorn's healing is more symbolic and indicative of his power as the true heir of Gondor than "magic spells"; I doubt someone who wasn't the rightful king would have been able to do it.
May 6, 2013 at 21:20 comment added user8719 This is not quite right (and in fact is a summary of the Wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_%28Middle-earth%29); Dwarves are seen casting spells in The Hobbit, chapter 2, and made magical toys for Bilbo's party in LotR chapter 1. Magic of various kinds is a lot more pervasive than it's commonly claimed to be, and sometimes seems as if it's just a regular part of everyday life.
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May 6, 2013 at 15:45 history answered Ender Delat CC BY-SA 3.0