Timeline for How was Skynet created in the original timeline?
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| Mar 24, 2019 at 0:52 | answer | added | Anthony X | timeline score: 0 | |
| Feb 4, 2019 at 12:38 | answer | added | Radical Theorist | timeline score: -1 | |
| Dec 4, 2017 at 8:45 | history | edited | Edlothiad |
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| Dec 21, 2015 at 8:00 | answer | added | Shahin Khorshidnia | timeline score: 0 | |
| Aug 4, 2015 at 1:09 | answer | added | Lance | timeline score: -1 | |
| Jul 10, 2015 at 2:28 | comment | added | Wad Cheber | The argument this question is based upon is fundamentally flawed. It boils down to "Someone other than Kyle must have been John's father the first time around, because Kyle could not have been John's father the first time around, because someone other than Kyle must have been John's father the first time around, because Kyle could not have been John's father the first time around..." If your premise is itself a causal loop, I don't see how you can argue that causal loops are impossible. | |
| Jul 5, 2015 at 14:27 | answer | added | Nova | timeline score: 3 | |
| Jun 17, 2015 at 15:29 | comment | added | RobertF | @Monty129 - Keep in mind the director's cut of T2 showed an alternate ending where Judgement Day passed without incident: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv5omWKXTqE. This suggests a second timeline was created when the first Terminator appeared in 1984 Los Angeles. You could say the second timeline "erases" the first, or instead (perhaps more plausibly) they both coexist in the time-space continuum. Whether this truly means the characters can control their fate, I don't know. | |
| Jun 17, 2015 at 14:39 | answer | added | user16696 | timeline score: 0 | |
| Jun 17, 2015 at 11:46 | answer | added | Zommuter | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jun 22, 2013 at 9:11 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackSciFi/status/348367730698764290 | ||
| Jun 22, 2013 at 8:45 | comment | added | Ward - Trying Codidact | Everyone go and read Heinlein's "By His Bootstraps" for a classic (maybe the classic), self-consistent, time travel loop. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/By_His_Bootstraps | |
| Jun 22, 2013 at 2:31 | comment | added | user1027 | @phantom42 In Terminator 1 there was only one true timeline. They added the multiple timeline stuff for Terminator 2 to add the flexibility needed for a franchise. Once the T2 changes were introduced, it becomes even more crazy. Skynet could send Terminators back to just straight-up build the first Skynet. The Resistance could send back troops to prevent nuclear proliferation, in an attempt to prevent Judgement Day. | |
| Jun 22, 2013 at 0:34 | comment | added | phantom42 | @Monty129, no - I get that. In every timeline, Skynet is created. In every timeline, John Connor is born. In every timeline, Judgement Day occurs. It comes down to details though. Is Miles Dyson always the creator? Is Kyle Reese always the father (I don't see how)? | |
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| Jun 21, 2013 at 20:47 | answer | added | Michael Brown | timeline score: 5 | |
| Jun 21, 2013 at 19:36 | comment | added | Andres F. | @Monty129 Adding to what you say: I think (but cannot prove) in the original Terminator nothing ever changes. At the end of the movie, "there is a storm coming". This means nothing has changed; Skynet will arise, and both it and the resistance will send their agents back in time in a futile attempt to change their reality. It is a closed time-loop with no solution and no variation at all -- and I like it that way. I tend to ignore T2's implications, because while I like the movie, I prefer T1. I also ignore any other Terminator movies because I hate them :P | |
| Jun 21, 2013 at 16:59 | comment | added | Monty129 | I think the problem you're facing is that you are looking at this from a strict mind set based on the mantra from T2 "No fate but what we make"; However all the other Terminator movies have shown that to be untrue. While the details can be fudged here and there the outcome of the war/judgement day/causality loop will always stay the same. | |
| Jun 21, 2013 at 16:45 | answer | added | RMalke | timeline score: 12 | |
| Jun 21, 2013 at 15:02 | history | edited | phantom42 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 21, 2013 at 14:39 | answer | added | user1027 | timeline score: 37 | |
| Jun 21, 2013 at 14:36 | comment | added | mawburn | @ClaraOnager I've always seen the Terminator's underlying story as an exploration of the time travel paradox. This is what has set it apart from other movies where things kill other things in cool ways. | |
| Jun 21, 2013 at 14:27 | comment | added | phantom42 | It may or may not have an official answer, but the whole premise of the franchise is that everything they do keeps altering history and the timeline. There has to have been a base original timeline. | |
| Jun 21, 2013 at 14:16 | comment | added | user8416 | It's a paradox, it doesn't have an answer. | |
| Jun 21, 2013 at 13:24 | history | asked | phantom42 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |