Timeline for Who or what is the oldest sentient being in Tolkien's lore?
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Oct 19, 2019 at 17:44 | comment | added | Spencer | "The Darkness" presumably referring to the overthrow of the Lamps. | |
Feb 28, 2014 at 0:11 | history | edited | user8719 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Feb 20, 2014 at 9:26 | comment | added | user8719 | @MikeScott - but is the information in the Lhammas still to be considered valid, or is it superseded by later works? The Lhammas predates the shift from Gnomish to Sindarin, Elwe is not Thingol, Quendian languages are derived from Valian, most of the Avari (there called the Lembi) were Teleri (in later stories most Avari were actually second kindred) - I'd be extremely careful before attaching any authority to anything in the Lhammas. | |
Feb 20, 2014 at 7:59 | comment | added | Mike Scott | In "The Lhammas" in The Lost Road it says, "Ingwë, high-king of the Eldalië, and the oldest of all Elves, for he first awoke", which suggests that he should be identified with Imin. | |
Feb 20, 2014 at 7:38 | comment | added | user8719 | @Rob - I've added your paragraph, thanks. | |
Feb 20, 2014 at 7:37 | history | edited | user8719 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Feb 20, 2014 at 1:29 | comment | added | Rob | Nice answer. I might also note that it can be fairly assumed that Ingwe and Olwe still live at the end of LotR and would therefore also qualify, along with Cirdan, among the oldest living sentient beings. Ingwe was one of the three Elves who visited Valinor with Orome and returned to convince the Elves to go; Olwe was one of the two leaders (with his brother Elwe) of the Teleri on the march west. (See the Silmarillion, Of the Coming of the Elves and the Captivity of Melkor.) As of the end of the Silmarillion, both Ingwe and Olwe were the kings of their respective people in Valinor. | |
Feb 20, 2014 at 0:58 | history | answered | user8719 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |