Timeline for Is it "the Jedi way" to kill a defenseless being if they pose a sufficient threat?
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| Feb 27, 2017 at 14:00 | comment | added | zibadawa timmy | @Jared Jedi mysticism seems based in Buddhism, which has an absolute-but-not-absolute prohibition on killing. In actuality the problem with it is that the (long term, karmic) consequences are regularly (very) bad, and moreover are so difficult to see that only an enlightened person can correctly judge when killing or "murder" is the optimal choice. So by default you should just never do it; if you're the Buddha, rarely you should. I think the Jedi have a similar "usually this is detrimental, so avoid it, but with great wisdom/force you can see when it is the right thing to do" attitude. | |
| Apr 8, 2015 at 13:30 | comment | added | Ellesedil | There was also that one time where Yoda was seeking a confrontation with a particular Sith Lord/Chancellor/Emperor person.... I don't think Yoda's quote was said with the same context as the situation with Windu and Palpatine in the later's office. | |
| Aug 4, 2014 at 13:08 | comment | added | Zibbobz | @Jared It is, in fact, subjective. Especially since Yoda later tells Luke he "Must Defeat Vader", though as it turns out, the best way to do this is to NOT kill him, but to show him the error of his ways. And, he may be refelcting, the best way to deal with the Sith Lord may have NOT been to directly attack him the way they did. | |
| Aug 1, 2014 at 2:10 | comment | added | Jared | Is it not "defense" if you stop someone from doing harm? "Defense" in that first quote by Yoda seems subjective to me. | |
| Aug 1, 2014 at 0:57 | comment | added | Shisa | @G_Hosa_Phat Yup, that's the irony of the quote, as mentioned by Zibbobz. | |
| Jul 31, 2014 at 21:24 | comment | added | G_Hosa_Phat |
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes." Isn't that an "absolute" in and of itself?
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| Jul 31, 2014 at 16:01 | comment | added | Shisa | @Jeff Oh but Jedi did marry, with special dispensations, sometimes. Emotions were not to be suppressed in every reading of the Jedi Code, they could also be processed peacefully: Emotion, yet peace. And 'fear is bad' is not so much a Jedi thing as 'fear can be bad'! These aren't v. good examples of Jedi absolutes. (Sorry, but I couldn't help myself) | |
| Jul 31, 2014 at 15:56 | comment | added | Zibbobz | @jeff True, but this is hardly the only problem the Jedi Order had going on. The whole purpose of the Clone War and the Sith Threat was to put an end to the Jedi, and more than anything they did that by forcing them to act against their own rules and dividing them against what they stood for. So yes, the Jedi had always dealt in absolutes, but until recently that hadn't been a problem. | |
| Jul 31, 2014 at 15:45 | comment | added | Jeff | Obi-wan's quote above is both hypocritical and out of context. The Jedi deal in absolutes all the time: "Jedi do not marry," "Emotions must be suppressed," and "Fear is bad" are all absolute positions the Jedi espouse. Obi-wan's statement was meant to counsel that you should consider alternatives, not simply do something the way it had always been done. | |
| Jul 31, 2014 at 15:29 | history | answered | Zibbobz | CC BY-SA 3.0 |