Timeline for What is the logical reason for bullying Spock?
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| Jun 18 at 13:51 | comment | added | PatWagnerDenver | Although Vulcans are logical, they are still subject to caring about hierarchies of status as do human beings - Anthropology 101. They work to achieve and to be acknowledged for their accomplishments. And there are leaders and positions of authority respected by others. The need to be "better" manifests itself in childhood on Earth, among humans and other species. It seems logical that the jockeying for position would begin in young Vulcans. | |
| Jun 17 at 20:57 | history | edited | Laurel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 14, 2020 at 15:42 | comment | added | Sovereign Inquiry | @Moo not necessarily. ,':-| | |
| Aug 25, 2014 at 18:07 | answer | added | Kevin Laity | timeline score: 6 | |
| Aug 23, 2014 at 6:56 | answer | added | Daffyd | timeline score: 4 | |
| Aug 22, 2014 at 5:26 | answer | added | user31962 | timeline score: 13 | |
| Aug 21, 2014 at 19:48 | vote | accept | Moogle | ||
| Aug 21, 2014 at 10:34 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackSciFi/status/502403282984525825 | ||
| Aug 21, 2014 at 8:57 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | To "disappoint" can mean "to fail to meet the expectations of". Humans generally react to this emotionally, but when a human is talking about Vulcans I don't think it's unreasonable to use the word just because the Vulcan on a good day doesn't feel the same emotional response that the human would. | |
| Aug 21, 2014 at 8:37 | answer | added | Liath | timeline score: 72 | |
| Aug 21, 2014 at 8:28 | comment | added | Holger | @Moogle: to me it seems like Vulcans even try to avoid to look like having emotions. Otherwise, it would be a cheap excuse, especially for Spock when Humans are around: “I don’t had an emotion, just showed an emotional face to ease the communication with the humans”. And if Spock’s father intentionally pretended to be disappointed to motivate Spock, that would mean to motivate him on an emotional level which would counter-act the idea of him getting rid of emotions. | |
| Aug 21, 2014 at 8:21 | comment | added | Moogle | @Liath that's an interesting point. Think you could expand that into a full answer? | |
| Aug 21, 2014 at 8:20 | comment | added | Moogle | @Holger interesting point. Although I would argue that his disappointment is logical in the way that it would teach Spock to have more control over his own emotions. Also disappointment was my interpretation of his father's actions. Perhaps I'm just projecting my own human emotions onto him. :D | |
| Aug 21, 2014 at 7:59 | comment | added | Holger | Isn’t being disappointed an emotion? Seems that Spock's father doesn’t control his emotions, so he should be disappointed about himself. | |
| Aug 21, 2014 at 7:26 | history | edited | Moogle |
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| Aug 21, 2014 at 0:28 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | "Spock's father was disappointed in him for reacting to them" -- IIRC at least one of the novels indicates that Sarek had extremely high standards for Spock. Partly to compensate for Amanda's distinctly non-Vulcan standards, and partly on a principle similar to "he'll have to be twice as good to get half of what they get". Being devoted to logic has demonstrably not entirely freed the Vulcans from prejudice. | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 22:41 | comment | added | ApproachingDarknessFish | @Liath Or maybe a deliberate attempt to remove an "unstable element" from their environment? | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 21:22 | answer | added | Tyson of the Northwest | timeline score: 21 | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 20:16 | comment | added | David Baucum | It is worth noting that this scene borrows from The Animated Series episode Yesteryear. In this episode Spock travels back in time and meets his younger self. Here we see Spock being treated poorly by his peers. | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 16:12 | answer | added | dmm | timeline score: 9 | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 14:06 | answer | added | Wolfman Joe | timeline score: 30 | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 12:41 | answer | added | Izkata | timeline score: 105 | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 12:02 | comment | added | user8719 | @Liath - that's definitely how I saw the scene. He was a test subject for them to see if a half-Vulcan would react to certain stimuli that a full-Vulcan would not. | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 10:33 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @Moogle: There is precedent for Vulcan children to be emotionally uncontrolled right into adolescence (see: Tuvok). | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 10:25 | comment | added | Liath | Could it be a "scientific experiment" and they didn't have any emotional investment in his emotional well being? | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 10:18 | comment | added | Moogle | @Moo but what could they consider a logical reason for doing it? | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 10:18 | comment | added | Moogle | @Richard but they're still expected to have a degree of emotional control. This isn't an isolated event that can be put down to a lack of control. As Spock says, this is their 35th attempt. | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 10:13 | comment | added | Moo | Further to @Richard's comment, children also have a completely different concept of "logic" to adults. | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 10:04 | comment | added | Valorum | Young vulcans lack emtional control | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 9:59 | comment | added | Rick Sanchez | Maybe to see what happens since he was half-Vulcan, half-Human ! | |
| Aug 20, 2014 at 9:54 | history | asked | Moogle | CC BY-SA 3.0 |