Timeline for Why isn't Harry in trouble when Tonks does magic around him?
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| Sep 30, 2018 at 12:14 | comment | added | Shana Tar | @HarryJohnston My thinking exactly. I believe it was told somewhere that the Trace works only on children not surrounded by adult wizards otherwise the Ministry would have some hard time tracing magic in wizarding families. | |
| Jun 17, 2018 at 23:08 | comment | added | Harry Johnston | Not an answer because I suspect it isn't canon, but I think the simplest explanation is that the Trace can tell whether or not an adult wizard is nearby. | |
| Feb 14, 2018 at 15:42 | comment | added | davidbak | Because the Trace is an poorly-thought-out plot device. | |
| Jun 2, 2016 at 10:12 | comment | added | sequoiad | Just a bit of speculation, but as Tonks is an Auror, possibly they have a degree of special dispensation and leeway when it comes to use of magic? Or at least it is reported differently in such a way as to circumvent the Trace? | |
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| Nov 11, 2014 at 15:11 | comment | added | Slytherincess | @Himarm - Actually, I was wrong. I happened to re-read the bit about the Trace in DH, plus the section on Dobby and the underage magic in CoS, and it sounds to me that they are one and the same: the Trace. The Trace detects all magical activity around an underage wizard and presumably reports it back to the Ministry for further investigation. How the Ministry handles this absolute logistical nightmare is beyond me. But that's apparently how it works. So, scratch my earlier comment. :) | |
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| Nov 10, 2014 at 16:00 | comment | added | Stephane Mathis | In the letter from the ministry, the reason evoked is about underage sorcery, not about the Statute of Secrecy. Since the Dursleys know about magic and are his family, I think it's ok to do spell in front of them. | |
| Nov 10, 2014 at 15:46 | comment | added | Himarm | i also think they did mention that in wizarding families the families themselves are held responsible and that the kids can use magic if their parents allow it because they weren't able to enforce it. | |
| Nov 10, 2014 at 15:41 | comment | added | Himarm | @Slytherincess yes that would be interesting if the trace pings when magic is used in the presence of muggles. however since they went to the effort to get them out of the house, they could have also informed whoever matters that they were picking harry up, since it wasn't exactly a secret. Arthur weasely would have been the most likely choice as he was known to get harry already, and then brought Harry to court. | |
| Nov 10, 2014 at 15:36 | comment | added | Zibbobz | @Slytherincess I think you're onto something about the Dursleys being out during Tonks' use of magic. This warning, the second one in particular (that he gets about his patronus charm) seems to be explicitly about using magic in front of muggles. No muggles, no problem. | |
| Nov 10, 2014 at 15:31 | comment | added | Slytherincess | I believe the Dursleys were sent out for the evening for a fake contest (Best Lawn in England! Or something like that), so there were no Muggles in the house when the Order came to collect Harry. All the Order members are fully qualified witches and wizards and can use magic freely. The same may not be true for Dobby, as he is a house-elf and house-elf magic is different than wizarding magic. The rules may be different for house-elves. But if it were merely about performing magic in front of an underage wizard, the Ministry would be barraging families and adults with disciplinary owls. | |
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