Timeline for Would Neville Longbottom Have Survived If Voldemort Had Marked Neville For Death Rather Than Harry?
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| S Dec 18, 2017 at 17:52 | history | suggested | Rebel 42 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
fixed grammar, and put Rabastan Lestrange in when listing Death Eaters that attacked the Longbottoms
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| Feb 14, 2017 at 15:24 | comment | added | JonathanReez | "as brave and nice as he is, he does not have the initiative, ability, or deep friendship with Hermione and Ron" - studies have shown that only 5% of a person's personality is shaped by their DNA. It's anyone guess what would have happened to Neville if Voldermort would've attempted to kill him. Becoming friends with Ron&Hermione might've been part of the prophecy... | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 12:12 | comment | added | user21820 | @Kevin: "But he understood at last what Dumbledore had been trying to tell him. It was, he thought, the difference between being dragged into the arena to face a battle to the death and walking into the arena with your head held high. Some people, perhaps, would say that there was little to choose between the two ways, but Dumbledore knew — and so do I, thought Harry, with a rush of fierce pride, and so did my parents — that there was all the difference in the world." They both felt that the most important was not the outcome (which could even be fixed) but how you faced it. | |
| Apr 27, 2016 at 12:09 | comment | added | user21820 | @Kevin: Your last comment is probably not what the author intended. All the prophecies in JK's universe do come to pass, in a way that is 'clear' after the event but not so clear before. It is as if people have already chosen their lives and hence will fulfill all prophecies, simply because they wouldn't choose otherwise, and not because they can't. Their inner choice of how they want to live completely determine their external choices, and so while they can choose differently they won't. This is alluded to by Dumbledore's explanation of the true master of death. | |
| Dec 12, 2014 at 14:56 | comment | added | voldemort | @Martha: Hermione didn't just leave school because of Harry and Ron. She wasn't pureblood, and was at danger in her 7th year anyway. So I guess she would have left Hogwarts regardless of the mission. | |
| May 26, 2014 at 20:31 | comment | added | N Unnikrishnan | Remember that Harry's character is also shaped by the piece of Voldemort's soul in him; so would Neville's character have been different it he was chosen. | |
| Oct 30, 2013 at 19:56 | comment | added | Kevin | @childcat15 Marking something is not the same as making it. The prophecy didn't make Harry Voldemort's equal, and it wouldn't have made Neville his equal. Remember, the prophecy has no power of its own, it is nothing but words. There's no guarantee a prophecy will come to pass. | |
| Oct 30, 2013 at 19:27 | comment | added | childcat15 | Your missing the point of what prophecy is. If Voldemort had "marked him as his equal" then Neville would have been his equal. | |
| Apr 27, 2012 at 19:12 | comment | added | Kevin | @Pureferret if V had gone after Neville, would the prophecy still have come to pass? It's not set in stone; as it happened it was self-fulfilling but perhaps it wouldn't have been if he chose differently. | |
| Apr 27, 2012 at 19:05 | comment | added | AncientSwordRage♦ | He would have had to have survived, how else would he be marked as an equal? | |
| Dec 22, 2011 at 17:53 | comment | added | Kevin | @Martha Hermione only went because Harry was going. I actually think (in the real story) Neville would have gone with Harry et. al. if they asked him to come, but I'm not so sure he would have actually taken the initiative there. | |
| Dec 22, 2011 at 7:15 | comment | added | fabikw | @Kyralessa. It's true that he had no reason to hate him. But don't forget that he ends up going to the good side because of Volvemort killing Lily. Maybe if she had survived, she may have been able to turn him over, but if not, he'd still be a Death Eater and certainly wouldn't have helped Dumbledore. | |
| Dec 21, 2011 at 23:20 | comment | added | Martha | "I don't think he would have left school to track down the horcruxes" - the one person I would never in a million years have imagined capable of voluntarily leaving school for any reason is Hermione, and yet she followed Harry without a second thought. So I don't think we can conclude that Neville would not have done everything he thought necessary, including leaving school. | |
| Dec 18, 2011 at 19:05 | vote | accept | Slytherincess | ||
| Dec 6, 2011 at 20:08 | comment | added | sbi | "...he does not have the initiative, ability, or deep friendship with Hermione and Ron to destroy Voldemort as Harry did." — But maybe he would have had it, had his life been different? In the beginning, he shows the typical traits of a boy raised by his grandmother, but he changes significantly throughout the series, so he must have had something more in him. | |
| Dec 4, 2011 at 20:53 | comment | added | Kevin | Yes, a very good point. | |
| Dec 4, 2011 at 20:15 | comment | added | fabikw | Something that shouldn't be forgotten is the fact that the help from Severus Snape was instrumental for Harry defeating Voldemort. That help comes from the fact that Snape loved Lily and as such, helped Dumbledore to help Harry (in his own way). | |
| Dec 4, 2011 at 5:28 | history | answered | Kevin | CC BY-SA 3.0 |