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| Jan 7, 2015 at 16:12 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | (continued) Along the same lines, I was re-watching The God Complex recently, and I noticed that this photo on the wall of a Sontaran labeled "Commander Harke", who had been one of the Minotaur's previous victims, was really just this publicity still of the character General Staal from The Sontaran Strategem/The Poison Sky, from the "wallpapers" gallery here. | |
| Jan 7, 2015 at 16:08 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | @Sachin Shekhar - Doctor Who re-uses props all the time. The Bob the Angel prop also appears to have been re-used in the second shot from The Angels Take Manhattan here, do you think that was meant to be Bob in an in-universe sense too, even though nothing in the dialogue or plot suggested it? | |
| Jan 7, 2015 at 15:08 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @SachinShekhar: What the.... | |
| Jan 7, 2015 at 6:23 | comment | added | Doctor Doom | @Lightness Yes. The Angel which grabbed the leg of Clara on Trenzalore in episode "The Time of The Doctor" was Bob. How do I know? (Hint: Face) | |
| Jan 6, 2015 at 9:48 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @SachinShekhar: Can you show me that the Weeping Angels sucked into the crack in "Flesh and Stone" were recreated by Big Bang 2.0? (Hint: no) | |
| Jan 6, 2015 at 2:39 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | @Sachin Shekhar - The crack didn't absorb all the Weeping Angels in the universe in "Flesh and Stone", just the ones that had been in the catacombs. | |
| Jan 6, 2015 at 1:51 | comment | added | Doctor Doom | @Lightness By that logic, Weeping Angels shouldn't have came back. | |
| Jan 5, 2015 at 22:54 | history | edited | Hypnosifl | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 5, 2015 at 22:49 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @Sachin You're misunderstanding these guys. The Pandorica "remembered" how the Universe was when the Doctor was sealed inside it. That's the Universe that it could restore. That was the entire point of the episode. Unfortunately Amy's parents had not been present in that Universe for at least a decade and needed Pond Magic(tm) to be restored too. | |
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| Jan 5, 2015 at 13:25 | history | edited | Hypnosifl | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 5, 2015 at 13:13 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | I menat "the moment the Pandorica had been sealed up" in the original timeline where all the stars hadn't blown up. Events in erased timelines can still have effects in the new timeline, time travelers in Doctor Who routinely retain memories of events that have been rewritten. And the whole point of the Doctor's explanation is that it preserved atoms from the now-erased universe--do you disagree? If so, then again, what do you think was meant by the line "inside it, perfectly preserved, a few billion atoms of the universe as it was"? | |
| Jan 5, 2015 at 13:10 | comment | added | Doctor Doom | @Jason No, it's 100% Sci-Fi. There are several initial "Boundary Conditions" which lead to the universe we know. If we are talking about Big Bang, then it's correct. The universe can evolve from an initial state to full grown state. | |
| Jan 5, 2015 at 13:07 | comment | added | Doctor Doom | @Hypnosifl Talking about "the moment when Pandorica was sealed" isn't valid because you are dealing with Time here. | |
| Jan 5, 2015 at 13:07 | comment | added | Jason Baker | @Sachin There's a certain point where you have to accept that Doctor Who doesn't run on science fiction logic. The Pandorica contained an air sample from the "eye of the storm", which survived the destruction of the universe for nearly two thousand years, until the Doctor rebooted the whole thing. Is that a self-consistent explanation? Not really, but it's not hard sci-fi; it's a fairy tale | |
| Jan 5, 2015 at 13:06 | history | edited | Hypnosifl | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 5, 2015 at 13:05 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | Also, I didn't say the universe had been sealed up--when I said "the Pandorica would only restore the universe to the state it was in at the moment it had been sealed up", the word "it" in "it had been sealed up" referred to the Pandorica being sealed up. I'll edit to avoid confusion there. | |
| Jan 5, 2015 at 13:04 | comment | added | Doctor Doom | @Jason With that logic, Universe never existed and it shouldn't be back. The whole universe gone because the crack in time got bigger and bigger. The whole universe was a special case. | |
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| Jan 5, 2015 at 12:56 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | The Pandorica was using the energy of the explosion to power the restoration field, but using the matter inside it--the "few billion atoms of the universe as it was" which were "inside it, perfectly preserved"--to reconstruct the actual structure, that's why he said "In theory, you could extrapolate the whole universe from a single one of them, like, like cloning a body from a single cell". Do you disagre? Do you think "a single one of them" refers to something other than the "few billion atoms of the universe as it was", or that "inside it" doesn't mean inside the Pandorica? | |
| Jan 5, 2015 at 12:49 | comment | added | Jason Baker | @Sachin Under normal circumstances you'd be right, but Amy's parents are a special case: because of the crack in time, the universe never contained them. So if you were to extrapolate forward from Roman-era Britain into 1996, they could not be there. When Hypnosifi talks about the universe being "sealed up", he's referring to the air inside the Pandorica, which is what gets extrapolated to reboot the universe. The "every point in time" thing is a handwave for explaining how the observably limited regeneration field could affect the whole universe at once | |
| Jan 5, 2015 at 6:13 | comment | added | Doctor Doom | Your answer is not clear. I remember The Doctor saying something about TARDIS was exploding at every moment of time and Pandorica's restoration field could exploit that. There's nothing like "the moment it had been sealed up". Also, the universe wasn't sealed up. It was erased from time. | |
| Jan 5, 2015 at 3:52 | history | answered | Hypnosifl | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
