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| Feb 15, 2015 at 4:49 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | @Questioner - Be sure to read through the comments, and our chat discussion--CreationEdge's interpretation might be right, but it seems like most commentators interpret it as another world that is literally joined to ours at the pole, not one lying at some great distance connected by a portal at the pole. | |
| Feb 15, 2015 at 3:21 | comment | added | Questioner | I haven't had time to read this thoroughly, but this does seem like a possible contender. For there to be a portal between dimensions, it's shape (door, hole in ground, etc...) is not important. What is important is that it is a spot in one dimension that allows passage to another dimension, where that other dimension does not occupy any space in the first dimension. A pole that you touch to go to another world could do the trick. I'll be reading the descriptions more carefully later to see exactly what's going on. | |
| Feb 14, 2015 at 21:35 | history | edited | user31178 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 14, 2015 at 21:26 | comment | added | user31178 | Let us continue this discussion in chat. | |
| Feb 14, 2015 at 21:21 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | Well, this was more in a fantasy vein than carefully thought-out science fiction, the author may not have thought too much about the visibility of the other planet, or imagined that it as only visible near the poles (much smaller than ours, maybe?) I don't see any line in the excerpts you gave about more than one world joining the same pole of our own world, couldn't it be one at the North pole and one at the South, or one at the other pole of the Blazing World? For that matter, although she mentions a third Sun, does she actually mention a third world besides ours and the Blazing World? | |
| Feb 14, 2015 at 21:16 | history | edited | user31178 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 14, 2015 at 20:37 | comment | added | user31178 | How do you join two worlds at the poles, supposing they occupy nearby space, without the other planet being visible by looking up? I'm trying to understand your interpretation, but I'm missing something. Especially when trying to reconcile their being a third son, of a world they don't go to. If they're physically nearby, how do you position three spheres so that they all have a touching pole at the same point? | |
| Feb 14, 2015 at 20:00 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | I don't see anything in the first excerpt that rules out the interpretation that these are just two planets joined at the poles, like one ball resting on top of another one (maybe with a region joining them like the middle of a peanut). The quote "away from the Earth-moon system" probably just means "neither on Earth nor on the moon" (it may be that all previous stories of fantastical lands were set on one or the other), not "in a region of space far away from the Earth and moon", since the author specifically said the planet "hovers near the North Pole" and that it's "so close to the Earth". | |
| Feb 14, 2015 at 19:43 | comment | added | user31178 | I guess I can interpret your comment as meaning in our same reality, just in a different part of the universe. Even then, the link isn't physical because it would bridge space. The book you linked to even says, "First, it the earliest story set on another planet, away from the Earth-moon system". That's at the bottom of the same p. 100 you linked to. This helps illustrate that the fictional world is not in our solar system. As for Different reality vs. different part of this one, later the character goes on to discuss making more immaterial worlds. This supports different "dimensions" | |
| Feb 14, 2015 at 19:35 | comment | added | user31178 | No, if you read it, it's very clear that you go through the pole to a whole new world, and you can only reach it by going all the way North then continuing. You can't reach in by going East to West. It's not through the ground they go, but they continue on into the world they can't reach from any other physical location. The boat is necessary because the location is over water. It also says the other world is too far away to be perceived easily from our world and has it's own son. This is all in the first excerpt. The entire read is available at the 1668 link. | |
| Feb 14, 2015 at 19:21 | comment | added | Hypnosifl | But they didn't go down through the pole, in the manner of a doorway in the ground--the plot description on p. 100 of Building Imaginary Worlds says "the other planet, the Blazing-World, hovers near the North Pole, so close to the Earth that it can only be reached by boat." So that makes it sound like it inhabits the same physical space that our planet and the other bodies of the solar system do, and just happens to be very close to Earth, rather than it being in some other dimension accessible by traveling through a portal. | |
| Feb 14, 2015 at 18:50 | history | answered | user31178 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |