Timeline for How much spice was in the Atreides' lost harvester?
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| Mar 27, 2015 at 18:27 | history | edited | Valorum | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Mar 24, 2015 at 17:10 | comment | added | Lighthart | @Richard - My understanding is the Guild would have put the satellites in orbit for free to conceal as much as possible about Dune in an effort to maintain the status quo-- no information, no real change in the rate of spice flow. The only demanded bribes from Fremen becuase they could. (This is all speculation, of course) | |
| Mar 24, 2015 at 13:44 | comment | added | Valorum | @AcePL - My understanding is that the guild didn't want to rock the boat. They set the Fremen's bribes at a level that they could (barely) afford and priced weather/spy satellites to the Harkonnen at a price that they knew they couldn't afford, blaming technical issues. | |
| Mar 24, 2015 at 12:37 | comment | added | AcePL | Let's plug a different data set into the calculation: let's assume there is success rate in finding spice for extraction (every other day for example), most of them would not be 100% harvester capacity and most importantly refined spice requires less of raw material. How that sounds? It would fit considering, for example, day of reunion of Gurney and Paul - was then mention about how often they would hit a patch for extraction? | |
| Mar 24, 2015 at 12:27 | comment | added | AcePL | @Richard - the bribes were "exorbitant" (it's literal quote AFAIR). If it was so big Harkonnens couldn't afford to raise it just to put satellites in orbit above deep desert how Freemen could afford it? And it what form - Raw spice or Refined? Either way it would have to be industrial scale. Especially since Fremen population had it's own needs in spice. Also, this population was engaged in other projects as well (trapping water, planting and hiding it). Manpower would be an issue. In other words: one harvest would need to be worth much more and yielding much more spice than the calculation. | |
| Mar 23, 2015 at 15:24 | comment | added | RobertF | It's been a while since I've read Dune, but I'll speculate perhaps the Fremen can rely on their superior knowledge of the desert to locate the most spice rich sands, maybe with the help of the Guild. Plus they've been stockpiling spice for a while. | |
| Mar 23, 2015 at 14:52 | history | edited | Valorum | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Mar 23, 2015 at 13:13 | comment | added | Valorum | @acepl - Are you sure they're out - producing the industrial scale operation? My understanding was that the vast majority was used for bribes to the spacing guild. | |
| Mar 23, 2015 at 12:40 | comment | added | AcePL | They need to exceed capacity of industrial operation. If one harvester trip yields 10g of spice, and one harvest is in multi-ton range, then it must mean that one sietch has at least sizable-percent-of-industry throughput to cover both own needs AND for trade/bribes (hefty ones at that). It may be possible, but unlikely. Clearly needs thinking on more. So let me run through calculation. | |
| Mar 23, 2015 at 12:13 | comment | added | Valorum | @acepl - We learn that there are millions of Fremen. Their cottage industry is sorting and harvesting spice. | |
| Mar 23, 2015 at 10:13 | comment | added | AcePL | I don't know where, but I think you missed the profit margin somewhere in this otherwise brilliant calculation (being serious here). It's too early for me to do this level of math. But something's nagging me. Also, what about smugglers? They would need to have a pretty big operation themselves to make any profit. Also, of all factions it's the fremen who are most spice-abundant. How do they can outmatch industrial scale? | |
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| Mar 23, 2015 at 9:11 | history | answered | Valorum | CC BY-SA 3.0 |