Timeline for How does the wave on Miller's planet cost Cooper and Brand "decades"?
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Oct 3, 2020 at 12:16 | vote | accept | Adam Johns | ||
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Dec 29, 2018 at 16:14 | comment | added | Adam Johns | @Valorum hmm that's an interesting interpretation of that line. I never considered that is what she meant. It still seems like a stretch to me that she is referencing a miscalculated time shift in that quote. I think the quote is more in reference to her losing a crew member and how she couldn't really prepare for that reality. | |
Dec 29, 2018 at 1:02 | comment | added | Valorum | "Amelia found she couldn’t meet Romilly’s eyes, but she shook her head. Then she forced her gaze back up, and grasped his hands. “I thought I was prepared,” she told him. “I knew all the theory.” She paused, gathered her words. “The reality is different.”" | |
Dec 29, 2018 at 0:56 | comment | added | Adam Johns | @Valorum, now THAT would explain it. If the 1 hour to 7 years dilation was simply an inaccurate calculation. Was there any dialogue afterwards to imply that calculation was inaccurate? | |
Dec 29, 2018 at 0:45 | comment | added | Valorum | @AdamJohns - When he says "a couple of years", Brand agrees with him but she's not at all sure that her numbers are accurate. On her return she's surprised to find that the dilation was even worse | |
Dec 29, 2018 at 0:39 | comment | added | Adam Johns | @Valorum, but after they get back to the Endurance we see that the wave did end up costing them decades... | |
Dec 28, 2018 at 19:24 | comment | added | Valorum | @AdamJohns - I'm sticking with my original answer. The plan was to land, pick up Miller and take off immediately, costing them about a decade. When the wave hit it flooded the engines. Cooper was concerned that the early estimate of how long it would take to dry the engines (an hour?) would cost them decades above what was already budgeted. He then found an innovative solution (performed largely off-screen) that helped them take off much sooner, but at a risk. | |
Dec 28, 2018 at 19:19 | vote | accept | Adam Johns | ||
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Jun 18, 2015 at 12:22 | comment | added | Valorum | The landers themselves defy conventional physics. My guess is that they've got rudimentary anti-grav. | |
Jun 18, 2015 at 12:06 | comment | added | Jim2B | In-universe perhaps, but as an aero & astro engineer I can assure you that this is cringe worthy. | |
Jun 18, 2015 at 5:41 | comment | added | Valorum | @Jim2B - Clearly they can, because they do. | |
Jun 18, 2015 at 2:58 | comment | added | Jim2B | Yeah, but blowing cabin air through the rockets wouldn't work and wouldn't be possible. No one sane connects their air supply to a rocket combustion chamber. Plus you would need a pressure differential for this to work and they had their airlock door open just moments before, which means no pressure differential. | |
May 10, 2015 at 22:23 | history | edited | Valorum | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Apr 14, 2015 at 15:31 | comment | added | Valorum | @adamJohns - Yes. As far as I can tell, coop's concern was that unflooding the engines would cost them decades on top of the time already budgeted | |
Apr 14, 2015 at 15:09 | comment | added | Adam Johns | @Richard but do you agree that almost all of the time they lost was not from the wave. Thus almost all time they lost was known about and should not have been a shock. | |
Apr 14, 2015 at 13:56 | comment | added | Valorum | @adamJohns - note my edit at the end of the answer | |
Apr 14, 2015 at 12:00 | comment | added | Adam Johns | @PaulD.Waite basically what I'm getting at here is that the only time unaccounted for was the time they lost from the engines being flooded from the wave (about 5 minutes = 6 months). So the other 23 years they already knew they were going to lose. | |
Apr 6, 2015 at 9:32 | comment | added | Valorum | @PaulD.Waite - I'm assuming it takes at least 45 minutes to take off and land. | |
Apr 6, 2015 at 8:56 | comment | added | Paul D. Waite | @AdamJohns: “they still must have already known that they were losing decades on Miller's planet due to their initial wandering around” — I think no, because their initial wandering around wasn’t a couple of hours? | |
Apr 5, 2015 at 18:45 | comment | added | Adam Johns | @Richard right but then they still must have already known that they were losing decades on Miller's planet due to their initial wandering around. | |
Apr 5, 2015 at 18:24 | comment | added | Valorum | @adamJohns - See edit. I think he manages to clear the engines a lot quicker. | |
Apr 5, 2015 at 18:23 | history | edited | Valorum | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Apr 5, 2015 at 18:03 | comment | added | Adam Johns | @Lavenchi so then they already knew before the wave came that they were going to lose decades then right? Because the wave only cost them around 5 minutes. Which would only cost them around 6 months. | |
Apr 5, 2015 at 8:00 | comment | added | Lavenchi | @AdamJohns I believe that Coop was angry because he felt that they could have taken off and avoided the wave if Brand had just left the data behind(and the other crew member would still be alive). | |
Apr 5, 2015 at 0:18 | comment | added | Valorum | @AdamJohns - I don't think there is a editing break while they're on the surface. All of a sudden the engines are ready. I put that down to poor editing. | |
Apr 5, 2015 at 0:00 | comment | added | Adam Johns | right but Cooper seems to be angry at the fact that the damage from the wave is the main reason they lost so much time. But I can't find a break in the scene after the wave that indicates the wave is what caused so much time to pass. Thus the main percentage of time loss they experienced was due to their normal wandering around before the wave. | |
Apr 4, 2015 at 21:56 | comment | added | Valorum | @AdamJohns - The plan was to touch down (briefly), pick up Miller and take off straight away. | |
Apr 4, 2015 at 21:36 | comment | added | Adam Johns | Yeah I didn't mean he was talking about the wave directly. Just its effects (like draining the engines). But once the wave hits they actually leave the planet very shortly after that. So all the time they lost they should have already known about right? | |
Apr 4, 2015 at 20:37 | history | answered | Valorum | CC BY-SA 3.0 |