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| Nov 15, 2019 at 15:31 | comment | added | Volker Landgraf | When someone holds a gun into your face and anounces he will kill you, then secretly drawing your own gun and shooting first still qualifies as self-defense in my opinion - maybe not in our time's RL, but in that SW setting where it was obvious that no threat of beeing prosecuted for murder would keep Greedo from carrying out his announcement. | |
| Mar 6, 2018 at 18:19 | comment | added | VBartilucci | I have always maintained that this moment is important to illustrate what kind of a person Han is. He's not a "cold-blooded killer" - Greedo was clearly threatening his life, not simply walking down the street, or yelling an insult at Han, or just snoring too loud. So he's WILLING to kill, but he's also willing to cut and run, or drop his cargo at the first sign of an Imperial cruiser. In short, out for himself. So that shows how far he's come by the end of New Hope alone, when he comes back to aid Luke. Making him shoot in self-defense minimizes that aspect of his character. | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 17:54 | comment | added | Omegacron | @imolit - you never see Han's blaster bolt because he fires it UNDER the table. In the original, you never saw ANY bolt - Han says "I bet you have", then blaster sound and poof, Greedo slumps over. In the newer versions you see Greedo fire at or try to fire at Han right before or just as Han shoots him from under the table. | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 14:31 | comment | added | KSmarts | @JasonBaker Anybody does, when their target can dodge a shot at point-blank range. | |
| Apr 10, 2015 at 2:42 | comment | added | Jason Baker | @Izkata The 1977 version is consistent with the script and the novelization: it's a deliberately confusing moment and nobody's quite sure what happens, but Han comes out alive and Greedo doesn't. The implication is that Han shot Greedo before Greedo could shoot him because, as imolit points out, who misses from point blank range? | |
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| Apr 9, 2015 at 18:02 | comment | added | Izkata | Waitwait hold up. I never had my own copy to check and weigh in on this particular topic, but seeing it now I agree with @imolit - the original on the left in the first video shows neither shooting, but there are two distinct shots: a flash of sparks, then smoke a moment later, which looks like it's coming from a different direction... | |
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| Apr 9, 2015 at 17:42 | comment | added | imolit | Uhm, am I missing something? I watched the three Youtube videos linked above, and in the 1977 version I can't see who fires at all -- there's smoke and then Greedy collapses. In the 2004 version Greedy shoots first but misses (as an aside, how can you shoot so poorly at point blank range?). In the 2011 version I don't see Greedo firing his gun at all, there's just the blaster slug from Han's pistol. So, since 2011, Han actually shoots first as far as I can tell... | |
| Apr 9, 2015 at 15:45 | comment | added | Medinoc | Indeed, the weird part is George Lucas's assessment that shooting someone who is holding you at gunpoint and announcing their intent to kill you makes you a cold-blooded killer. | |
| Apr 9, 2015 at 15:36 | comment | added | KSmarts | I think Lucas was even wrong about why people were/are upset about the change. I don't know of anyone who "wanted Solo to be a cold-blooded killer". He's just pragmatic. Han knows that Greedo intends to kill him; why give him the chance to try? | |
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