Timeline for If Palpatine had foreseen his destruction at the hands of Luke, why risk trying to turn him?
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| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:43 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Dec 15, 2015 at 15:08 | comment | added | Codes with Hammer |
so the Emperor couldn't have foreseen that Luke would destroy him, because that's not what happened. The Emperor did foresee the possibility. But always in motion, the future is; attempting to control events such that the Force prediction does (or does not) come to pass tends to result in the worst possible outcomes. (Or so my teacher once taught me.)
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| May 22, 2015 at 3:18 | history | edited | Null♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| May 22, 2015 at 2:58 | comment | added | Null♦ | @MatthewRead Second sentence: "It could be used to feel another being's feelings, the future,..." | |
| May 22, 2015 at 0:48 | comment | added | Matthew Read | @Null You'll note that your link does not reference foreseeing the future. Palpatine was absurdly powerful, it makes no sense to treat him as weak in all areas because he failed once in one particular area. | |
| May 21, 2015 at 23:45 | comment | added | jpmc26 | @Null 1) A full year has passed between The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Luke has become significantly more aware of the Force and more skilled with its use. 2) The Emperor wouldn't be paying that much attention to every shuttle that passed through. Vader had the advantage of having the shuttle called to his attention by an officer; it's only natural he'd focus his senses on a suspicious vessel. 3) The Emperor foresaw that Luke would turn himself over to Vader on Endor, and he was right. (The premonition surprised Vader: "He will come to me?" when told to wait on Endor.) | |
| May 21, 2015 at 21:59 | comment | added | Null♦ | @MatthewRead Both have to do with sensing through the Force. If you can't even sense a particular person's presence, how can you sense a future event involving that person? | |
| May 21, 2015 at 21:54 | comment | added | user15742 | I'll have to parrot what Matthew Read has said. I see no reason to conflate sensing presence of another and forecasting. | |
| May 21, 2015 at 21:47 | comment | added | Matthew Read |
If the Emperor can't even sense Luke's presence on the forest moon of Endor, why would we believe that the Emperor can foresee that Luke can destroy him? Because the two have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
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| May 21, 2015 at 17:22 | comment | added | Null♦ | @Zibbobz True, it's possible the Emperor was lying, although he does seem genuinely surprised. Either way, since Vader could have been lying in Episode V the question's premise can't be taken with certainty. | |
| May 21, 2015 at 17:18 | comment | added | Zibbobz | We also don't know if the Emperor really didn't sense Luke at the Battle of Endor - he doesn't seem that surprised to see him in his throne room, and he is not above lying or creatively hiding truths. | |
| May 21, 2015 at 16:31 | comment | added | Yorik | The "if" is important. We have no corroboration that the Emperor forsees anything. I mean he always says it in the context of "like oh yeah I knew that." | |
| May 21, 2015 at 16:13 | comment | added | Thomas | Also one can wonder even IF the emperor foresaw something if it was luke destroying him and not just a skywalker killing him and all thinking it has to be luke as "anakin skywalker" does not "exist" anymore | |
| May 21, 2015 at 15:27 | history | answered | Null♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |