Timeline for Which King took possession of the Stone of Orthanc?
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Jan 28, 2019 at 1:35 | answer | added | fiftysausages | timeline score: 2 | |
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Jun 2, 2015 at 13:50 | answer | added | Maksim | timeline score: 1 | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 21:21 | comment | added | Wad Cheber | @Jason - Plausible, but he could have made it easier on us by saying "the Kings" :) | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 21:13 | comment | added | Jason | Tradition is not the same as formality, but really all I was alluding to was the same idea brought up by @jamesqf, the idea that he's not just speaking for himself but for the entire line of kings to come after him. It's a more formal concept than just two people talking to each other. He follows it up with "I" because those are things that he, himself, are doing during his particular reign. | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 20:40 | comment | added | Wad Cheber | @Jason - if his respect for tradition precluded him from saying "I" instead of "the King", why does he then say "I do not release you from your service. You are going now on leave, but I may recall you. And remember, dear friends of the Shire, that my realm lies also in the North, and I shall come there one day.'? | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 20:36 | comment | added | Wad Cheber | And saying "I" instead of "the King" isn't particularly informal, especially when you're talking to a hobbit who calls you by an offensive nickname. And especially especially when your next sentences have several "I"'s in them. | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 20:34 | comment | added | Wad Cheber | @Jason - see this answer | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 20:29 | comment | added | Wad Cheber | @Jason - but he deviates from tradition by having Frodo carry the crown and having Gandalf place it on his head (he was supposed to do that himself), by bowing to the hobbits, by letting them call him Strider, by not killing Beregond, by banning Men from the Shire, etc. He isn't overly concerned with tradition. He is pretty laid back, really. He even uses a mildly offensive sobriquet as the name of his royal house (Telcontar, i.e., Strider) | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 20:23 | comment | added | Jason | There's a difference between letting the kingship go to his head and respecting the responsibilities that now belong to him. A certain formality must be exercised in public appearances. | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 20:05 | comment | added | Wad Cheber | @Jason - I like Aragorn so much that I would prefer it if he didn't let the Kingship go to his head. | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 19:57 | comment | added | Jason | @WadCheber Aragorn wasn't (acting) King through most of the books, we have very little evidence for how he behaves in the confines of that role. | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 18:51 | vote | accept | Wad Cheber | ||
Jun 1, 2015 at 18:48 | answer | added | Ian Thompson | timeline score: 9 | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 17:35 | comment | added | Wad Cheber | @jamesqf Kings do, but Aragorn doesn't. I think the Royal We is first person plural, not third person. Your second point is a very good one though. | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 17:30 | comment | added | jamesqf | Kings do tend to speak of themselves in the third person - the royal we. Also, it seems to me that Aragorn means the Kings of Gondor, including all of his successors, not just himself. | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 14:36 | answer | added | Matt Gutting | timeline score: 4 | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 14:34 | answer | added | Jason Baker | timeline score: 2 | |
Jun 1, 2015 at 14:01 | history | asked | Wad Cheber | CC BY-SA 3.0 |