Timeline for Why wasn't Harry Kim promoted beyond ensign, when others like Tom Paris were multiple times?
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| S May 9, 2023 at 15:36 | history | suggested | AJM | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 25, 2018 at 21:19 | comment | added | Kidburla | Harry also complained about this in the same scene where Tom gets "promoted". He says "didn't notice a little box on my chair!" implying that he is quite put out that Tom got promoted and he didn't. | |
| Aug 27, 2017 at 8:08 | history | protected | Valorum | ||
| Jun 4, 2017 at 18:15 | answer | added | Jack | timeline score: -2 | |
| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:43 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Dec 11, 2016 at 4:22 | answer | added | Meddwl | timeline score: 7 | |
| Nov 12, 2015 at 22:27 | comment | added | Ryan Perry | Tuvok was also promoted to Lt Commander. | |
| Nov 10, 2015 at 5:00 | comment | added | Wolfie Inu | @MasonWheeler "Poor, dumb Harry." - SF Debris, at least once per Voyager episode | |
| Aug 22, 2015 at 2:12 | vote | accept | JMFB | ||
| Aug 10, 2015 at 21:40 | comment | added | JMFB | @MasonWheeler I was thinking more like the Wesley Crusher, kind of a goody goody, a bit awkward, almost always does and wants to do the right thing. Makes a stupid mistake, like Wesleys mistake when they did that flying stunt and got somebody killed. Smart, trusted, etc. I think of them as kind of the same character. The whipping boy of the show, can be pushed around, talked into something, gullible, etc. | |
| Aug 10, 2015 at 17:40 | comment | added | Mason Wheeler | Because nothing good gets to happen to Harry Kim. He's essentially the O'Brien of Voyager. | |
| Aug 10, 2015 at 10:23 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @JMFB: Was just reading the comments, in which I saw no indication that you'd changed your mind. Sorry. | |
| Aug 10, 2015 at 10:18 | comment | added | JMFB | @LightnessRacesinOrbit I edited my answer to make that correction 13 hours ago. That comment is old. Either way it's not crucial to my question, which is focused on Harry and why after 7 years he still has not been promoted. | |
| Aug 10, 2015 at 9:43 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | @JMFB: "Tom was promoted from Prisoner/Civillian to Ensign" When was that? I don't see where you're getting this "Ensign" thing from. | |
| Aug 10, 2015 at 4:04 | comment | added | JMFB | @DJClayworth Tuvok comes to mind, he was definitely promoted. Torres was promoted to Lieutenant and never graduated starfleet. | |
| Aug 10, 2015 at 3:30 | comment | added | DJClayworth | Paris is obviously a special case. Was anyone else promoted? If not, then I think we have an explanation. | |
| Aug 10, 2015 at 0:19 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackSciFi/status/630533871432548352 | ||
| Aug 9, 2015 at 21:30 | comment | added | Valorum | Only time will tell :-) | |
| Aug 9, 2015 at 21:26 | comment | added | JMFB | @Richard Actually I just wanted to see somebody outscore you on an answer at least once on this site. LMFAO | |
| Aug 9, 2015 at 21:23 | comment | added | Valorum | Although Jason Baker isn't wrong, I was under the impression you wanted an in-universe answer why Harry Kim wasn't promoted, not why the producers didn't write him a promotion :-) | |
| Aug 9, 2015 at 21:15 | answer | added | Jason Baker | timeline score: 63 | |
| Aug 9, 2015 at 21:08 | history | edited | JMFB | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 9, 2015 at 20:58 | comment | added | Valorum | Paris was the son of an Admiral, had graduated Starfleet and piloted a ship before. Kim was a fresh graduate with no real off-world experience. | |
| Aug 9, 2015 at 20:51 | answer | added | Valorum | timeline score: 44 | |
| Aug 9, 2015 at 20:49 | comment | added | JMFB | @Richard, VOY "Caretaker": JANEWAY: You help us find that ship, we help you at your next outmeet review. PARIS: Ah ha. JANEWAY: Officially, you'd be a Starfleet observer during the mission. PARIS: Observer? Oh hell, I'm the best pilot you could have. JANEWAY: You'll be an observer. When it's over, you're cut loose. PARIS: The story of my life. So Paris went on the ship as a civilian observer and was promoted to the rank of ensign by Janeway. | |
| Aug 9, 2015 at 20:45 | comment | added | Valorum | Starfleet returned his rank, Janeway returned his rank. It's arguable whether he had one promotion or two | |
| Aug 9, 2015 at 20:44 | comment | added | JMFB | @Richard Tom was promoted from Prisoner/Civillian to Ensign, then he was promoted to Lieutenant, then demoted to Ensign, then promoted again to Lieutenant. He did not enter the ship with a starfleet rank, so that's two promotions, a demotion, and a re-promotion, by my calculations. In any event why wasn't Harry promoted? | |
| Aug 9, 2015 at 20:40 | comment | added | Valorum | Tom wasn't promoted multiple times, he was demoted and then had his rank returned | |
| Aug 9, 2015 at 20:31 | history | asked | JMFB | CC BY-SA 3.0 |