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Sheridan and Delenn sent Babylon-4 back in time 1000 years to serve as a battle station in the earlier war against the Shadows.

The Minbari found Babylon-4 with a Minbari and two Vorlons aboard it. It becomes such an important base of operations that even the Shadows recognize it 1000 years later and try to destroy it. The Minbari man aboard it became their greatest historical leader. The station must have been an important historical place to them.

It should be as important and recognizable to the Minbari as important places are to our past. (e.g. - People today recognize important places like the Great Wall of China, the Taj Mahal, the Tower of London, the Eiffel Tower, and the Great Pyramids of Egypt.)

Given that the Minbari had interstellar spaceflight abilities long ago, they would almost certainly have pictures of B-4.

Did the Minbari recognize B-4 as it was being built? (Hey, those humans are making a copy of our sacred battle station!)

I am looking for answers that have citations from novels, TV series, movies, or interviews with JMS.

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    It doesn't really answer your main question, and this is only a vague memory, but don't they say in that episode that the Minbari have only 1 surviving image of the station - the one they show in that episode?
    – Izkata
    Commented Mar 22, 2017 at 22:55
  • For once I'm too busy answering a HP Q to get a jump on this. Last few B5's have been pounced on. Yeesh. Can't compete.
    – Radhil
    Commented Mar 22, 2017 at 23:10
  • That first line - SPOILERS, MAN!!! Next you'll be leading a question by announcing that Darth Vader is Luke's dad.
    – Omegacron
    Commented Mar 23, 2017 at 0:51
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    I don't think the Minbari Babylon 4 was still around in a museum or something when the Earther Babylon 4 was being built. So it would be more akin to the Colossus at Rhodes or the Tower of Babel than the Taj Mahal or the Eiffel Tower.
    – komodosp
    Commented Mar 23, 2017 at 9:22
  • Also, were there any Minbari historians in or around Babylon 4 as it was being built? Space is a big place, so they most likely wouldn't come across it by chance.
    – komodosp
    Commented Mar 23, 2017 at 9:28

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By way of Word of God, JMS has addressed this:

How did the Shadows know about Babylon 4?

Well, if the Minbari had records of B4's visual look, given that the Shadows are advanced, would they not also have the potential to recognize it for what it was once it was nearing completion from their own records?

Did the Minbari agree to help fund B5 because they knew about B4?

No, because if you remember, even Delenn didn't know where B4 came from until she came to B5, well after completion.

Why don't the Minbari have many records of the last war?

It was also a very devastating war, and one of their mistakes was that there were those who were entrusted to keep the past, sort of a more advanced version of storytellers, who put all their data in one basket, as it were...very possessive and jurisdictional. When they and that center of data were taken out, a lot was lost. One drawback of a very rigid and structued society.

But if that happened early in the war, wouldn't they have records from after that point?

Certainly it would've occured in the last days of the war.

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    "...who put all their data in one basket, as it were...very possessive and jurisdictional." That should be a lesson to the Minbari. If only they had cloud storage servers back then. rolls eyes
    – RichS
    Commented Mar 22, 2017 at 23:27
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    Well, a thousand years have also passed. When you consider there's data created only like forty years ago that we cannot recover, it doesn't seem so unreasonable that the data was simply lost.
    – Kai
    Commented Mar 23, 2017 at 0:02
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    Considering that the homeworld had already been bombed repeatedly by the time that the station showed up, I can easily imagine these storyteller guys putting all their historical data in what they imagined to be the safest place imaginable... Babylon 4. And... BOOOOOM
    – Omegacron
    Commented Mar 23, 2017 at 0:55
  • @Omegacron Babylon 4 survived the war, so that does not seem to have been the place it was stored. scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/155116/… Commented May 28, 2017 at 3:13
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During WWE part 1, when Sheridan, Sinclair, Marcus, and Ivanova meet Delenn in the White Star's "conference room", Delenn specifically states that that the record [of B4] has never been shown to anyone outside the Grey Council. Because of that, general knowledge of B4 by the Minbari would be non-existent, preventing them from putting two and two together.

Additionally, B4 was pulled through time prior to it being operational: only Earthforth staff and construction crew were aware of the design specs. It stands to reason that the Minbari were not aware of what Babylon 4 looked like during 2254.

Also, even though the Minbari were sponsors of the Babylon Project, it doesn't mean that they were consulted on the schematics, layout, look, etc. All throughout season 1 and season 2, it was mentioned numerous times that Earth was burdened with the cost of developing, creating, building, and actualizing the project. All the Babylon stations had a specific Earthforce design using Earthforce technology: the Minbari would have only known [and honestly, only one of the Nine] had B4 opened for business instead of B5.

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  • I don't know that it stands to reason. The Minbari would have recognized Earth space-station construction tech, and design style, when they saw them. Now, it's true that you needed Gray Council people to recognize the similarity/identity, but it's a bit of a stretch to assume they never looked at any relevant visual intelligence.
    – einpoklum
    Commented Jan 9, 2022 at 21:29

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