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As was already explained in this question two Infinity Gauntlets have appeared in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, one in Odin's Vault and one used by Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War.

In Thor: Ragnarok, Hela states that the gauntlet in Odin's vault is a fake. But since this one is shown in the first Thor movie, it predates the one that was constructed on Nidavellir by many years.

Since nothing can be a fake copy of something constructed years later, this implies that there is an Original Infinity Gauntlet, or at least an original design/mythical ancient weapon either lost through a plothole (or hopefully saved for later...?).

Has anyone heard or read a mention of this in interviews/tweets/comic adaptations of the MCU?

In this answer it is stated that (apparently) the Asgardians are aware of such device, and Odin's Gauntlet is a cheap imitation of something that already exists, not a mass destruction weapon in development.

So, it had to be invented or at least designed before. This is supported by he fact that this has to be a glove. And taking into account that the stones are there since the Big Bang this is not impossible.

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    Fake doesn't imply that there has to have been an original. Every year there are dozens of paintings sold that are 'fakes' but that are also original artworks in their own right.
    – Valorum
    Commented Jul 10, 2018 at 6:14
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    Ultimately the gauntlet is a device. If I made a space laser out of papier-mache and spackle, you'd know it was fake without there ever having been a real space laser to compare it to.
    – Valorum
    Commented Jul 10, 2018 at 6:24
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    Yes, but... the concept 'space laser' already exists in science fiction and it was invented by someone, so there is at least an original concept. The fake Gauntlet issue is like having a chinese ipod BEFORE Steve Jobs birth. Someone at least had to have the idea that the stones could be put in a glove instead of a sceptre or a sword.
    – user102525
    Commented Jul 10, 2018 at 6:31
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    What's to say that the "original" gauntlet wasn't Odin's invention.
    – Valorum
    Commented Jul 10, 2018 at 6:43
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    I stand corrected. Odin and the Asgardians were (apparently) aware of its existence so Odin had a fake one made; scifi.stackexchange.com/a/190902/20774
    – Valorum
    Commented Jul 10, 2018 at 6:52

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In Thor: Ragnarok, Hela states that the gauntlet in Odin's vault is a fake. But since this one is shown in the first Thor movie, it predates the one that was constructed on Nidavellir by many years.

This is true. We know that the gauntlet that Thanos uses in Avengers: Infinity War was very likely created sometime after the start of Thor: the Dark World, given the discussion Odin and Thor had.

ODIN (TO THOR): "For the first time since the Bifrost was destroyed, the Nine Realms are at peace. They're well reminded of our strength, and you have earned their respect and my gratitude."

Thor: The Dark World

We also know it was made before the end of Avengers: Age of Ultron, where we first saw it in the post-credits scene. According to Joe Russo in an interview, the gauntlet scene in Ultron may take place on Nidavellir itself, which gives us a pretty concrete argument for this one coming significantly later than the fake.

This actually doesn't tell us a whole lot about the fake itself though. While it's possible that there was an earlier ancient version (one Thanos could have based his own on), it's equally possible that Thanos had multiple prototypes constructed (potentially including the one in Odin's vault) before having the Dwarves create the final superior version, and the one that he ended up using. Beyond that, I've yet to find any official sources addressing this with finality, so it's impossible to be certain for now.

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    It's also possible that Odin's gauntlet was a fake but not a copy of Thanos'. Just to add a further idea...
    – TheLethalCarrot
    Commented Jul 10, 2018 at 14:44
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    @TheLethalCarrot I think that'd the idea the original question was already posing: that it was a fake based on an older non-Thanos gauntlet.
    – Mwr247
    Commented Jul 10, 2018 at 14:59
  • Maybe, I'm not entirely sure what the idea in the OP is. Mu comment was mainly referring to this line in the OP though "Since nothing can be a fake copy of something constructed years later".
    – TheLethalCarrot
    Commented Jul 10, 2018 at 15:04
  • This puts the destruction of Nidavellir under the responsability of Odin and puts Thor as a liar by explaining the dwarf that he dind't defended them because of Ragnarok.
    – user102525
    Commented Jul 10, 2018 at 16:16
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    @LudovicoN Potentially. We see Thanos already pulling out the gauntlet at the end of Age of Ultron in response to those events, so regardless of whether or not it occurred before Thor 1, it was still before Ragnarok (although one could argue Thor may not have known, and Odin had been effectively out of commission since the end of Thor 2). Still, you bring up a good point about Asgard's role in protection, especially in light of a line given in Thor 2. I'm going to make an edit.
    – Mwr247
    Commented Jul 10, 2018 at 17:13

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