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Before his speech regarding Darth Plagueis, Sheev Palpatine and Anakin Skywalker have a conversation regarding the Jedi "overthrowing" the Republic and betraying Palpatine.

How does he know this? It is simply his Force vision? Or would he have knowledge of this through some other means? Listening devices? Other Dark Jedi in the Jedi Temple?

  • Well, the Jedi weren't planning to overthrow anyone, so are you asking how was Palpatine claiming to know of a Jedi plot (had there actually been one)? – RedCaio Dec 11 '15 at 2:26
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    You may not have noticed before, but Palpatine isn't exactly the most truthful guy around. – phantom42 Dec 11 '15 at 2:27
  • yeah. that;s why I put the word "overthrow" in parentheses...I know at this point his is manipulating Anakin's feelings but how would he know explicitly that Anakin was asked personally to spy for the jedi? – Eleven-Eleven Dec 11 '15 at 2:28
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    Maybe it was simply foreknowledge of the fact that given his intended course of action, the Jedi were bound (by honor and duty and all that) to try and stop him. More the "I won't tell him the important bit about why they'll be entirely justified in that action, just describe the action.. Mua-ha-ha" – Andrew Thompson Dec 11 '15 at 2:51
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    Oh yeah, sorry @AndrewThompson, i meant your last comment before mine...the one I just upvoted... – Eleven-Eleven Dec 11 '15 at 3:22
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Because that was basically his plan.

  • Eventually, Jedi find out he's a Sith

  • They make a move against him. That is really the only option they would have

  • He accuses them of treason and executes Order 66.

Please note that this plan is necessary, in advance, or he'd have no excuse for Order 66!

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    Thank you. I understand the plan he has. That much is obvious. But specifically knowing that the Jedi asked Anakin to spy, it was almost too specific a detail for me to not have some other method of obtaining that information. But...logically, it does work. "If i appoint Anakin and not a master on the council, they will be suspicious of my reasoning, and will want to know what i am up to...hence Anakin, hence, I will plant the seed of distrust in Anakin.." I guess I should take into account that he is THE Sith... – Eleven-Eleven Dec 11 '15 at 15:32
  • He befriended Anakin with the dire intent to turn him. He know that Anakin was impulsive and couldn't fully control his feelings and thus was not only exceptionally strong with the force but also rather easy to influence. The coucils decsions while prudent actually played right into Palpatine's hands. – Adwaenyth Dec 11 '15 at 15:59
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    @Eleven-Eleven - yep, that's what I was driving at. He knew what they are doing because he manipulated them into doing just what he wanted. – DVK-on-Ahch-To Dec 11 '15 at 16:17
  • Palpatine knew the Jedi didn't trust him, that's why he ask Anakin, a very imperfect Jedi, to represent him on the council. He was counting on the Jedi to use this opportunity to spy on him since he knew they'd frown on his interfering in the council's affairs. – RedCaio Dec 12 '15 at 0:08

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