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Kara Danvers/Supergirl lives in National City, which appears to be at least a moderately large city, though smaller than Metropolis.

We know from various episodes that

  • it is relatively near a mountainous area with a dry/desert climate, where the DEO does training exercises (Supergirl can fly far quickly, but her sister Alex works at the DEO base and lives somewhere in National City)

mountain area

  • it has a large enough waterway to allow oil tankers into port

oil tanker

  • it is on/near a river or a bay with a large bridge

bridge

Where is National City located?

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    Out of universe, some of the filming locations are listed here. – Rand al'Thor Dec 15 '15 at 14:22
  • Here's a 'news' site written in-universe. Maybe you'll find answers there. – Rand al'Thor Dec 15 '15 at 14:24
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    Do we have any proof that this is an official news site? So far, everything has said that supergirl/superman do not exist within the arrowverse, but this newspaper has stories about the arrowverse. the same goes for batman. also, there are no actual stories. – phantom42 Dec 15 '15 at 14:29
  • I don't know, hence the comment rather than an answer. Just thought it might be helpful. – Rand al'Thor Dec 15 '15 at 14:49

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National City, in the TV show, is located somewhere on the west coast of the United States. Most likely, it's located in southern California, just south of the Sierra Nevada mountains.

As you mentioned, there are only a couple of things we know for sure about National City. Three of those things can help us locate it:

  • It is on the coast: it has a harbor big enough for a large oil tanker to dock there (the one Kara splits in half by accident). This almost certainly means it's one one of the coasts, as I don't think any inland rivers are big enough.
  • It's near enough to some very arid regions that Alex can get there for work and back.
  • It's roughly a "two hour drive" from National City to Montecito. From episode S01E06, "Red Faced":

Cat's Mom: Anyway, Toni's having an impromptu little dinner party at the house she's rented in Montecito. Just a few old friends.

Cat: Mother, that is at least two hours away, we're going to have to leave right now.

Fortunately, This last one really helps pin down a lot. Since Montecito is in Southern California, we know National City has to be in the same area. A ballpark estimate would put it within a 120 mile radius of Montecito. If we further restrict ourselves to the coastline, that puts it on the coast, somewhere north of San Diego but south of Los Angeles.

The bottom end of Death Valley would be almost due north of that point on the coast. And being on the coast likely means lots of bays or barrier islands where that bridge would be needed. So, all of the pieces seem to fit a city located somewhere on the southern CA coast between LA and San Diego.

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Since it takes around 2 hours to Ojai or Montecito in the show, and all the rest (giant bridge and bay allowing big ships), San Diego is the only place which satisfies all of these criteria in real life. Plus, National City is, as already mentioned, part of San Diego in real life as well, just a few miles south of downtown. So National City is a mix of Los Angeles (since it is filmed there and San Diego doesn't have the size or importance that L.A has), and San Diego, since it is located there geographically, i.e. no other place is two hours from Montecito and Ojai, with a deep bay and giant bridge.

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I would suggest that National City is located just south of Los Angeles, nearby or as a stand in for Dana Point/San Clemente. Much like Gotham and Metropolis are south of New York, located in New Jersey and Delaware, respectively, but located where no large cities are in the real world. National City would be near, but not part of Los Angeles; close enough for Cat Grant to get to Hollywood parties, but far enough that she can be the biggest queen bee in the city, which she would not likely be in L.A. This also allows the DEO's desert headquarters to be out somewhere between Lake Elsinore and Canyon Lake, about an hour's drive east along route 74 (Ortega Hwy), over the hills into the desert.

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There is a National City just south of San Diego on the interstate 5, it is located between San Diego and Chula Vista. Its western edge borders the San Diego Bay, which has a bridge that connects the Coronado Island to San Diego mainland. The bridge is about 3 miles south of the San Diego international airport, and Imperial Valley (a desert climate) is just east of the Laguna mountains (the mountain range just east of San Diego).

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National City is LA, a few hours from Ojai and Montecito it also has a large port and bridge also Long Beach (w/in LA) has a huge bridge as well and a very large port. San Diego is pretty far from both Ojai and Montecito, most of their residents vacation a bit closer to that location. Also the personal style of Cat is VERY LA.

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    Do you have some sources about this ? – Bebs V Dec 1 '16 at 8:38
  • @BebsV: You can look on a map. – Lightness Races in Orbit May 16 '18 at 16:28
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In the original DC comics, all of these locations were allegorical stand-ins.

Gotham and Metropolis were supposed to stand-ins for New York (Metropolis, the sort of uptown, Gotham the older, grittier, more corrupt downtown). Smallville is supposed to be a podunk town in Kansas. National City, I initially thought of as a stand as a substitute for Chicago, given that there were several Chicago world's fairs, where a lot of new stuff came out.

It is geographically San Diego, but kind of a stand in for either Chicago or Los Angeles in terms of the general feel of the town (both cities have a lot of trade influence, whereas I get the impression San Diego is super into the Mexican American culture far more than being an international city). We haven't had a whole lot of Mexican American stuff brought up, but definitely get the sense of an (inter)national city.

And yes, there is a National City, CA.

  • Welcome to SFF:SE. Your answer has a lot of detail, but there are two issues: (1) Your answer is more like a comment and it doesn't directly answer the question. Are you claiming that National City in Supergirl is National City, California. If not, then what is your answer? Either way, you should answer the specific question. (2) If these city associations are part of your answer, then should also provide references. Even if these facts are clear to you, they may not be clear to the asker, and the most useful answers are ones that include information that can be referenced. – Praxis Mar 6 '16 at 2:06
  • All of DC's cities are amalgams of several "real" cities. Metropolis and Gotham are both really supposed to be New York City - I can't recall the writer who described it as "Metropolis is NYC in the daytime; Gotham is NYC at night". Their physical location are always flowing around a bit, depending on what any one writer needs. So while National City is certainly a West Coast city, it's got facets of about all of them, from San Diego to San Francisco. – VBartilucci Jul 9 '18 at 12:39
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When I first started watching the series I was taken aback because I live in National City. I have lived here for 4 years, but it is nothing like the National City of Supergirl.

I agree that it is more like Chicago or Los Angeles, but don't forget about Central City, which is also like Los Angeles. If we were to narrow it down, I feel it is more plausible that National City is a surrogate for Chicago, Illinois, but on the west coast given that it has a port.

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    Welcome to Science Fiction and Fantasy, and thanks for posting your first answer! If the part about how you live in National City is relevant, maybe you could tie it in to the answer (for example, saying that it cannot be the National City you live in because of so-and-so). Also, some references to the show could help too. – Adamant Sep 26 '16 at 5:19
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    You know Chicago is a huge port, right? – eshier Jul 28 '17 at 14:24
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In Season 1 Episode 19, “Myriad” we see National City labeled on a map on a news broadcast. It appears to be near the West coast of the United States hugging the border between California and Oregon. enter image description here

But then in season 1 episode 20, we learn that Nevada is to the northeast of the DEO. So I’d say they’re inconsistent.

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Nah, National City is a stand-in for LA because of the reasons stated above, and it makes sense bc Cat Grant in her celebrity is very LA. Central City is Chicago bc there's a skytrain.

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    Do you have any references to back this up? – AJL Nov 2 '16 at 22:08
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In one scene Supergirl flies around a high building. I'm not sure what its name is but I know it's located in Los Angeles. In other scenes you can see other buildings from Los Angeles, too.

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    That doesn't mean it has to be in Los Angeles and could merely be filmed there. This is talking about an in-universe location – Edlothiad Sep 25 '17 at 17:44
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In season 3 episode 22, we learn that National City and Magadascar are almost antipodes. With this tool (it is in Spanish) we can see that the antipode of San Diego is the closest to Madagascar.

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    The exact line is "Go through the Earth's core, and you get pretty close to Madagascar." which could mean hundreds, if not thousands of miles out. – Valorum Aug 4 '18 at 22:43

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