14

Nick Fury made Phil Coulson the Director of S.H.I.E.L.D.

However,

the Avengers don't know that Coulson is still alive

  • but do they know that Nick Fury isn't the director anymore?

He brought the Helicarrier to the battle field in Sokovia with Maria Hill too, does it mean he's back in S.H.I.E.L.D? Or was he just trying to help as himself, but not as the director or working for S.H.I.E.L.D?

  • 1
    That Coulson is still alive isn't a spoiler, it was in all the marketing leading up to S1 of AoS. How he's still alive is a spoiler, as it's a key plot arc in S1 of AoS. – user1027 Dec 16 '15 at 17:50
  • 1
    @keen saying that he is still alive implies that he died in the first place, which is a spoiler for Avengers. – ibid Dec 16 '15 at 18:00
  • 4
    I don't think we need to worry about Avengers spoilers on this site in 2015. Also, the first episode of AoS aired after Avengers and the commercials had the "spoiler". – Justin C Dec 16 '15 at 19:59
  • @MikeEdenfield I wasn't the one who hid it. I'm just explaining what I presumed the reason to be. – ibid Dec 16 '15 at 20:10
  • 1
    Possible duplicate – ibid Dec 16 '15 at 20:26
17

Early in the conversation between Tony and Nick in the barn, there's this exchange:

Tony- You're not the director of me.

Nick- I'm not the director of anybody.

So yes, the Avengers know that Nick Fury is no longer the Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. That he still has access to S.H.I.E.L.D. gear and (former) agents should surprise no one given how resourceful he is. That TV viewers know that S.H.I.E.L.D. is still active and run by Coulson is a nice Easter Egg.

-1

Phil Coulson is the director in the TV version of the MCU.

In the movie version, Nick Fury is director.

Jos Whedon has said in interviews that Phil Coulson is still dead in the movies:

"Yeah he’s dead. The entire television series is just a fever dream. As far as I’m concerned in the films, yes he’s dead."

  • 3
    Uhhhh... wot? Did a director just invoke head-canon? – Radhil Dec 16 '15 at 18:25
  • 6
    Sentences like X is still dead make me want to ask "Please notify me if there is a change in his state"... :-p – SJuan76 Dec 16 '15 at 18:42
  • 5
    There is no TV version of the MCU and film version of the MCU, there are simply films and TV shows set within the MCU. Joss Whedon is not in charge of the canonicity of MCU properties, and if the quote in question comes from the place I think it does, he was talking about Coulson being dead to the characters in Avengers: Age of Ultron, not in the universe - i.e. it's important to his characters they they still believe that Coulson is dead. See my answer here for a more in depth explanation. – Dr R Dizzle Dec 22 '15 at 9:08
  • 4
    @ibid The movies haven't directly referenced the TV shows so far, but the fact is that the location of Baron von Struckers base in Avengers: Age of Ultron is only known to The Avengers thanks to Coulson, who told Maria Hill about it. Additionally, the Helicarrier Fury turns up on in Sokovia is given to him by Coulson, who was keeping it for an emergency under the name Theta Protocol. As far some of the characters in the movies are concerned, he's dead - but he is canonically alive within the movies themselves, and the universe they take place in. – Dr R Dizzle Dec 22 '15 at 9:38
  • 2
    @ibid There is no internal evidence in the text of the films that contradicts the existence of the TV shows. And a lack of evidence that the shows do exist from the films side of things doesn't mean that they don't exist - the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. – Dr R Dizzle Dec 22 '15 at 9:51

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.